1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,720 So when people speak about these things, I'm going to cook for you. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,720 When? 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:10,720 When? 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,480 At the food shops, at the food stores, I just pick up the food. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,840 What do you cook for yourself when you get too kept? 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,920 No, I was thinking it's just the home dynamic. 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:21,920 I wasn't thinking take-off. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:22,920 No sandwiches. 9 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:23,920 No sandwiches. 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:24,920 I make myself sandwiches. 11 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,520 What sandwiches do you make? 12 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Sorry? 13 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:28,520 What sandwiches do you make? 14 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:29,520 What bread? 15 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:30,520 What sandwiches do you make? 16 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:31,520 I don't know. 17 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Like what's in them? 18 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:33,520 Like what's filling? 19 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,520 What is filling? 20 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:35,520 What do you eat? 21 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:36,520 What do you eat? 22 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,520 It's filling. 23 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:38,520 It's filling. 24 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,520 It's filling. 25 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,520 What do you eat? 26 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,520 It's filling. 27 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:42,520 It's filling. 28 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,520 It's filling. 29 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,520 It's filling. 30 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,520 It's filling. 31 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,520 It's filling. 32 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:47,520 It's filling. 33 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:48,520 It's filling. 34 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,520 It's filling. 35 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:50,520 It's filling. 36 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,520 It's filling. 37 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,520 It's filling. 38 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,520 It's filling. 39 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,520 What do you eat? 40 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,520 It's filling. 41 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,520 It's filling. 42 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:57,520 It's filling. 43 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:58,520 It's filling. 44 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,520 I mean, I'm not going to eat it. 45 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,520 I'm not going to eat it. 46 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:02,520 I'm not going to eat it. 47 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,520 I'm not going to eat it. 48 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,520 I'm not going to eat it. 49 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,520 I'm not going to eat it. 50 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:06,520 I'm not going to eat it. 51 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,520 I'm not going to eat it. 52 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:08,520 I'm not going to eat it. 53 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,520 I'm not going to eat it. 54 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,520 I'm not going to eat it. 55 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:11,520 I'm not going to eat it. 56 00:01:11,520 --> 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to eat it. 159 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,520 I'm not going to eat it. 160 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,520 I'm not going to eat it. 161 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:28,520 I'm not going to eat it. 162 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:29,520 I'm not going to eat it. 163 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,520 I'm not going to eat it. 164 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,520 I'm not going to eat it. 165 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,520 I'm not going to eat it. 166 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,520 I'm not going to eat it. 167 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,520 No, I just have boundaries. 168 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:44,520 No, I'm not going to eat it. 169 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:45,520 I'm not going to eat it. 170 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,520 I'm not going to eat it. 171 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 No, I'm not going to eat it. 172 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:48,520 I'm not going to eat it. 173 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,520 I'm not going to eat it. 174 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:50,520 I'm not going to eat it. 175 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:51,520 I'm not going to eat it. 176 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,520 I'm not going to eat it. 177 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:53,520 I'm not going to eat it. 178 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:54,520 I'm not going to eat it. 179 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:55,520 I'm not going to eat it. 180 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:56,520 I'm not going to eat it. 181 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,520 I'm not going to eat it. 182 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:58,520 I'm not going to eat it. 183 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,520 I'm not going to eat it. 184 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,520 I'm not going to eat it. 185 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,520 I'm not going to eat it. 186 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,520 I'm not going to eat it. 187 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,520 I'm not going to eat it. 188 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:24,520 Look, I'll tell you this. 189 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:30,520 To be honest, 2026, I'm going to be changing my podcasting style. 190 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,520 For many reasons, part of it is not really that we're saturated. 191 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,520 It's a very small industry market. 192 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,520 But some stuff is getting boring and stale. 193 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,520 I think Utube mentioned this to some degree. 194 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,520 Some things need to be shaken up, man. 195 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,520 And with us, as much as we were trying the Joe Rogan route, 196 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:49,520 sometimes two hours, man. 197 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:54,520 Especially because a lot of our guests are buzzing. 198 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,520 They're just fucking boring. 199 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,520 So you're also asking for a lot. 200 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:04,520 I think it's 100% when you're trying to stretch with those people 201 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,520 that don't have the muscle to check for that. 202 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,520 I don't know if that makes sense. 203 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,520 Because then it feels like you're trying to pull shit out of them. 204 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,520 And that becomes work. 205 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,520 And the moment for me, and we've had episodes where I said, 206 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 "What's your last week felt like work?" 207 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,520 We're like, "You don't think I'd say anything? 208 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,520 I don't know what to say about it." 209 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Those episodes I get. 210 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Because you try. 211 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,520 So part of the strategy, I hope, is what guests I don't know, 212 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:35,520 of which I used to look forward to the idea of a meeting for the first time. 213 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,520 So I'm hoping for, like, magic moments. 214 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,520 I'm going to have to let that go. 215 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,520 I'd rather meet someone, figure out that this person's cuck boring 216 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,520 and then see if I can curate a conversation. 217 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:46,520 No, Tucker does. 218 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,520 And if they look like a 30-minute chat, 219 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,520 they'll be 30 minutes just off. 220 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:55,520 They just speak to them before, like a lunch or something. 221 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Tucker has a dinner the night before. 222 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,520 They have a dinner where his wife and he brings his family. 223 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,520 They have a dinner. 224 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,520 And then he gets talking points from that dinner. 225 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Because then there's no cameras. 226 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,520 You can see the animal that he wants to go. 227 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,520 You can also pick out which he cares. 228 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,520 It's a bit sensitive. 229 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,520 I'm not going to talk about this person's childhood. 230 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,520 And then the following day, then they shoot. 231 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Sure. 232 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:12,520 You know. 233 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:13,520 So a bit of curation. 234 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,520 Okay. 235 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,520 Maybe a lot of curation is what I'm looking for. 236 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:16,520 It's not my style. 237 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,520 But I think considering that we're not filming just for our consumption. 238 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:27,520 And there is something to be said about the audience and them getting bored. 239 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Just also respecting them. 240 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 You know, people are giving you their ears and their eyes. 241 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,520 So, I mean, we're not just random Popeyes. 242 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,520 You know, Dave's. 243 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:41,520 We are sort of considered. 244 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,520 June 3 is coming out next year. 245 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Now, if you will nerve. 246 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Gives us exactly what he gave us. 247 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,520 That's good. 248 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:51,520 He knows. 249 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:52,520 I think I'm speaking to him. 250 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,520 I'm looking at you, right? 251 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:54,520 Oh, it's funny. 252 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,520 So if he only gives us part one and part two. 253 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,520 We'll be grateful. 254 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,520 But we are hoping for something. 255 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,520 It's like Avatar Fire and Ash, which I'm hopefully going to watch soon. 256 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,520 But I'd like for James Cameron to give us something we haven't seen. 257 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,520 Are you going to call it? 258 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,520 I'm not. 259 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,520 You're. 260 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,520 I'm next. 261 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,520 You. 262 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,520 I'm next. 263 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,520 I'm next. 264 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,520 I'm next. 265 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,520 I'm next. 266 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:21,520 I'm next. 267 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:22,520 I'm next. 268 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,520 I'm next. 269 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,520 I'm next. 270 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,520 I'm next. 271 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Damn it. 272 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,520 You can't do it. 273 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:28,520 In the morning. 274 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:29,520 Oh, no. 275 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,520 How do you know? 276 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:31,520 I know my schedule. 277 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,520 I don't know. 278 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,520 I need to be with my humor. 279 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,520 So, I just want to curate more. 280 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:43,520 And there's certain content creators, man, that I'm such big fans of. 281 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,520 It's just a amount of work they put in. 282 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,520 I'm not willing to do. 283 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,520 But every now and then, a part of me wishes. 284 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,520 We've spoken about this deal. 285 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,520 The idea of dropping one super phenomenal episode once in four months. 286 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,520 Yes. 287 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,520 And spending four months just putting that together. 288 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,520 Just researching. 289 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,520 Instead of putting the work. 290 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,520 Instead of trying to drop every week. 291 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,520 Oh, Lord. 292 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,520 It's not nice and people get angry. 293 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,520 But when you're trusted. 294 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,520 There's nothing that's harder. 295 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,520 That people don't understand. 296 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,520 And when you're meeting a person for the first time. 297 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Yeah. 298 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,520 Like I'm meeting you for the first time. 299 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,520 And you're on the mic. 300 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,520 And it's canceled. 301 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 It's only, it's only hard if the person is tough, tough. 302 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:27,520 But I'm saying. 303 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:28,520 Some people make it so like. 304 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,520 So here's the thing. 305 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,520 Cause people will say if it's your brother or your friend or your this. 306 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,520 And I'll go. 307 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,520 I literally met that person. 308 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,520 I've only met them once. 309 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,520 Yeah. 310 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,520 When they sat there. 311 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,520 I've never seen him again. 312 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,520 We might now have a report and chats on WhatsApp. 313 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,520 But that was the first time I met them. 314 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Besides maybe having. 315 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,520 Sending them location. 316 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,520 Yeah. 317 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:51,520 We're not on WhatsApp. 318 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,520 That's, that's the only real chat. 319 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,520 And then they hear. 320 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,520 And I was one, two, three. 321 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Fire. 322 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Go. 323 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:07,520 I was having a conversation with all of them for the first time when we started. 324 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,520 But the synergy and how can it get so nice. 325 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,520 I don't like that. 326 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,520 And it's not because there's no synergy. 327 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,520 I'm like, but it could be bad. 328 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:17,520 It's like Campbell. 329 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:18,520 Sort of a fake one. 330 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,520 I want us to do the Juarez thing earlier. 331 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:21,520 Okay, sorry. 332 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,520 And the reason is you can tell when. 333 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,520 How far people watch episodes. 334 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,520 They never go maybe 18 minutes, 14 minutes. 335 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:31,520 And what if we mention it then. 336 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,520 Then it's like you guys didn't say anything. 337 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,520 I'm just. 338 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,520 But I was saying, you can also be strategic in your title. 339 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:38,520 Sure. 340 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,520 You can say speak about Juarez. 341 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,520 And then you just give it time. 342 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,520 No, but that's almost too paid. 343 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,520 You can drop it as a short. 344 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:45,520 Okay. 345 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Don't worry to my, I'm just saying. 346 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:47,520 Yeah. 347 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,520 Okay. 348 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,520 If ever you are in the future. 349 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:50,520 Yeah. 350 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Yeah. 351 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaking of that before you speak about Juarez. 352 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,520 Yeah. 353 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,520 I was going to go with this. 354 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,520 Yeah. 355 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,520 And we did. 356 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,520 We did him and Kat Williams at this service. 357 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:02,520 We actually fucked up. 358 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:03,520 We fucked up. 359 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,520 All of us. 360 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,520 So stop changing drops. 361 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,520 Kat Williams. 362 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Sure. 363 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,520 Which became I think the biggest episode of 2025. 364 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,520 It's the biggest episode now. 365 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,520 I think ever. 366 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Okay. 367 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:14,520 Great. 368 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:15,520 Okay. 369 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,520 Yeah. 370 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,520 So, so Kat Williams dropped so many bombs that win. 371 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Shannon shop dropped the shorts. 372 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,520 They were insane. 373 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,520 And we saw that and it was like. 374 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,520 So then we started doing shorts. 375 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,520 The problem is it became almost like this thing of let's just do long format. 376 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,520 For the sake of long format, which is a mistake. 377 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,520 You drew long format. 378 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,520 If it feels long format, if it doesn't. 379 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:39,520 Kat, yeah. 380 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,520 But Kat does. 381 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,520 But for the two minutes. 382 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, they have separate channels. 383 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:45,520 For their shorts. 384 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:46,520 Yes. 385 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:47,520 And a separate channel for the long. 386 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,520 And then I told her we know what I'd say. 387 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,520 We're talking about two different things. 388 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Okay. 389 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,520 All right. 390 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,520 My thing is this. 391 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,520 I don't like the shorts living on convo. 392 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:56,520 By the way. 393 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Yes. 394 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:58,520 We've spoken. 395 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,520 It's almost must be like on convo shorts. 396 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Sure. 397 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:01,520 Yeah. 398 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Yeah. 399 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,520 We've definitely. 400 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:04,520 So if you have two different things. 401 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,520 Shannon shop put those cat Williams shorts. 402 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,520 Sure. 403 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,520 On his club. 404 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,520 Shakey. 405 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:10,520 Sure. 406 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:11,520 And give away. 407 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:12,520 People must understand. 408 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:13,520 We're not speaking about YouTube shorts. 409 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,520 There's a different thing. 410 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,520 We're shorts or clips or shorts or five minutes. 411 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,520 So you're speaking about two minutes and above. 412 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Yeah. 413 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:20,520 I'm just saying people to understand what we're saying. 414 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,520 So it's a concern which is a very, very concern. 415 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Mm. 416 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Myself, Apple Mac, G, SMW, X, all of these guys. 417 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,520 Their views are not people watching the whole episode. 418 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,520 These are just facts for whatever reason. 419 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Sure. 420 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:41,520 So you worry when this certain juice that people may miss it because they won't watch till the end. 421 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,520 Mm. 422 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,520 Um. 423 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Part of the shorts was saying, look, some of the juicier stuff later. 424 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,520 Make shorter clips and then drop them. 425 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,520 Mm. 426 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,520 But people won't watch those either. 427 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,520 Mm. 428 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,520 They, they need to be impactful. 429 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,520 Otherwise. 430 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,520 So, but, but I, I, I, I, people don't watch. 431 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,520 I, I think it's different strokes for different folks. 432 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:08,520 So for example, me, the way that I can see because I'm a long format guy. 433 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:09,520 Oh, you're like me. 434 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:15,520 So, so for me personally, and we've gotten feedback on, for example, on my chance, where 435 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,520 there's certain individuals that say, I don't want you to be career. 436 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,520 I want to know where it started from. 437 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,520 So I will watch the entire. 438 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,520 There's too few of those people. 439 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:25,520 No, but it's fine. 440 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,520 And I'm saying, what's your, the, the data will speak. 441 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,520 So again, if you had two different platforms, one with shorts and one of this, you can actually start. 442 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,520 You're coming back with that thing and I'm trying to explain. 443 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,520 We're talking about two different things. 444 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 We're just saying it's good. 445 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Sure. 446 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,520 I support, have a short clips channel, have a long format. 447 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,520 Perfect. 448 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:47,520 What we're talking about is we made the mistake of dropping shorts, even when, shorter clips, 449 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,520 even when we don't need to. 450 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:49,520 Yes. 451 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:50,520 When they exist, it's in your conversation. 452 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:51,520 Got you. 453 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,520 Got you. 454 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:53,520 Got you. 455 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,520 Got you. 456 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,520 I'm saying, and we see this with TikToks where people may have not watched the episode. 457 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,520 You need to master a scale of figuring out what do people want to hear. 458 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,520 So this tribute to Warwick Stock is valid. 459 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:12,520 Whether people watch the whole episode or not, you're like, say, if ever you're worried about 460 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:18,520 people missing something that comes organically later, make that a short clip. 461 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,520 Even if it doesn't have a lot of views, you're like, it's so important. 462 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 I wanted to have a standalone. 463 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,520 Whether it's on the main channel, that's what you're talking about. 464 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,520 I'm just saying the mistake we made is we saw that work for Cad Williams and Shannon Shop 465 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,520 and then we wanted to do it for almost every episode and you listened. 466 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,520 He just was just dropping fire off the fire. 467 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,520 You can sit in three hours and only come out to two short clips and that's okay. 468 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,520 Don't try and be like, no, we must find five or ten short clips in every don't. 469 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Because you already, it's that thing. 470 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,520 You're trying to milk where there's nothing and then you see 300 views and it's like, 471 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,520 but this was never going to work. 472 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Sometimes the short clip is 30 seconds. 473 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,520 But sometimes the challenge is you don't know what will land. 474 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:59,520 You don't know. 475 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,520 It's a gamble. 476 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,520 But I'm just saying, because in some random tips on his papa in the channel, 477 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 we'll find something that you didn't think was a nugget. 478 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,520 And we've seen that a lot. 479 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,520 Yeah. 480 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,520 And then we'll get a couple of copies. 481 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:19,520 If you check out the TikTok game, some of those short clips are like, 482 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,520 what? 483 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,520 It even has more views than the actual long form. 484 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,520 Yeah, sometimes it's one minute. 485 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,520 Some of the clips are like, yeah, some of the clips are like, 486 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,520 and I watched those clips and I go. 487 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:35,520 He's shy of the whole episode. 488 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,520 Yeah, no, I get it, I get it. 489 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,520 Again, I really think with different strokes with different folks. 490 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,520 And I'm not looking at it from a numbers point. 491 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:48,520 I'm looking at it about an audience because there's sometimes the quantity 492 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:54,520 might be the fickle market versus the few quality which might actually be your 493 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,520 true audience. 494 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,520 Do you feel the same about different shows on the same channel? 495 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:01,520 Yeah. 496 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:02,520 Same energy. 497 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,520 Yeah. 498 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,520 If I had things my way, each show would have its own channel. 499 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:07,520 Yeah. 500 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:13,520 So that people would know where to go for this, you know, because to me personally, 501 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,520 but with that being said, it's the question of, 502 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,520 would you want in your church? 503 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,520 Can't believe you've got a rotating church of it. 504 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Like a thousand people versus having a cult of training diehard. 505 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,520 You see what I'm trying to go with this? 506 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,520 And I'm saying, there's nothing wrong with having the church where the shorts 507 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,520 and the what to idea of a thousand people. 508 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,520 But me, I'm a cult nigger. 509 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,520 So I want to be 20 strong. 510 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,520 I will die for this motherfucker type of review. 511 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,520 I believe that there's 20 strong are the ones that will pay membership 512 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,520 of a hundred bucks a month versus these guys who are like, 513 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,520 and when there's the next trend in the next wave, they'll go. 514 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,520 These guys are still playing the first recross, the stuff that wasn't even 515 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:56,520 released. 516 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:57,520 They are diehard. 517 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,520 They've got recross tested on their bodies. 518 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,520 I would rather focus on this and have quality and grow that. 519 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Again, I'm a case study of one. 520 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,520 So in that, I feel this real loyalty. 521 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:14,520 It's people that don't want to let go of using a Nokia in 2025. 522 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,520 Those niggas I want to look after, not just regarding these ones. 523 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,520 It's different visions. 524 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:24,520 But again, these ones tend to be the people that bounce different visions. 525 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,520 No, that's fine. 526 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,520 And that's okay. 527 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,520 Hence why I'm not saying let's pick one over the other versus have both. 528 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,520 And you see Wootie, I'm this person. 529 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,520 If we need DSTV compact, or I'm willing to go DSTV premium, 530 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,520 but we've got both options. 531 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,520 That's what I'm trying to say. 532 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Give us the chat here. 533 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,520 The sports guys with DSTV. 534 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,520 They're like, forget this. 535 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,520 All the channels. 536 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:48,520 Okay. 537 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,520 Just let me see. 538 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:50,520 You're just me. 539 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,520 No, no, no, no. 540 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:52,520 DSTV sports. 541 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Yeah. 542 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,520 You know. 543 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Because the show makes, can you show makes entertainment? 544 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,520 Show makes sports entertainment. 545 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:58,520 Sure. 546 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,520 Let me go where I need to go, but give me the options of all. 547 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,520 So I'm not trying to say, Wootie, this one is better than this one. 548 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,520 I'm saying for me, I like that. 549 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Because I like that, I'll focus on that for someone else. 550 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:09,520 They might like that. 551 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,520 And that's okay. 552 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,520 But where does that other many case studies where that works? 553 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,520 Because you both of you like the single channel. 554 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,520 And I guess I would argue in an executive. 555 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,520 I don't like single channel. 556 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,520 Like you like one channel myself that one topic. 557 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Oh, yes. 558 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Yes. 559 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,520 Yes. 560 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,520 Yes. 561 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:27,520 I like that. 562 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,520 And across all media, it's only YouTube where that works now. 563 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Like everybody else, whether it's an ABC that's got different shows. 564 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,520 It's a show. 565 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Yes. 566 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:38,520 It's a. 567 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Yeah. 568 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,520 I think the problem is the algorithm for me. 569 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:42,520 Okay. 570 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Explain. 571 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,520 I don't think the algorithm is set up like that. 572 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,520 Mm-hmm. 573 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,520 Because the assumption was. 574 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,520 It was being YouTube now. 575 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:53,520 I was being YouTube. 576 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,520 Sure. 577 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,520 I put you on this. 578 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,520 This is when I told you that this is why I don't think multiple shows on a channel work. 579 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,520 Yeah. 580 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Abu Macchi have got, I don't know how many now 1.1 million subscribers. 581 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,520 They launched a football show. 582 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Mm-hmm. 583 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,520 Which I believe was their first show that got a proper sponsor. 584 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Yes. 585 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,520 The online gambling platform. 586 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,520 Yeah. 587 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,520 The views on that show. 588 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,520 And it's been running for a while. 589 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,520 Mm-hmm. 590 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:19,520 Soap up. 591 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,520 But it's on the main channel. 592 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,520 Yeah. 593 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:23,520 The views are soap up. 594 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:28,520 So compared to, let me give a thing that will also boost your, your argument. 595 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,520 Compared to, I'm a fan's weight. 596 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,520 Mm-hmm. 597 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:32,520 I'm a fan's weight is just TV. 598 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,520 But it's only soccer. 599 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,520 Only, only soccer. 600 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,520 They even go to the, I'm a stadium. 601 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Don't know what I'm a fan's outside. 602 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,520 Mm-hmm. 603 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Who's I'm a question. 604 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:42,520 But look, look, look. 605 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:43,520 Then they all watch. 606 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:44,520 Just, they, they, they, they make it. 607 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,520 The advocate for guys that got make you put in that soccer. 608 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,520 You're also trying to leverage off what you've created that one. 609 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,520 You know what I'm saying. 610 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,520 That's what I'm saying. 611 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,520 Yeah. 612 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,520 So, what Dabzah asked, is it just YouTube where you wouldn't support this? 613 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,520 Because on other platforms, you're like, I'm already on a fancy magic. 614 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Mm-hmm. 615 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,520 This show is playing. 616 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,520 They're advertising the next or an outing in Ibuwe. 617 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Uh, we wouldn't want to watch much I love and only watch you at 1299. 618 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Mm-hmm. 619 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,520 As an example. 620 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Mm-hmm. 621 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,520 And he's saying, from what he's seen on many platforms, that thing works of adding more shows. 622 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Mm-hmm. 623 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Is it just a YouTube thing where it almost isn't what you're saying? 624 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,520 Which now that you're here, let's sell you another product. 625 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,520 And I'm saying the algorithm looks like it fucking doesn't do that. 626 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:30,520 I'm going to show you the numbers just now. 627 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,520 Yeah. 628 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,520 No, with digital, it's definitely not like your traditional media. 629 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Sure. 630 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:36,520 You know. 631 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:37,520 And I think... 632 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,520 Do you think it's an essay thing or overseas thing? 633 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,520 I think it's channel. 634 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,520 I think when you say... 635 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Yeah. 636 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,520 I think when you say... 637 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:44,520 No, no. 638 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,520 Vices. 639 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,520 Don't look at the big guys. 640 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:48,520 Look. 641 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Generally speaking. 642 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Okay. 643 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,520 So, has there been people that have done it successfully? 644 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,520 Yes. 645 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,520 But generally speaking, the way that, for example, when you advertise, and this is always something 646 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,520 that frustrates me when I go to creative agencies. 647 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Okay. 648 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,520 Where they will make a creative package for TV and they give it TVC and it makes sense. 649 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:05,520 Mm-hmm. 650 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520 And then they want to repurpose it for social media. 651 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:08,520 I don't know. 652 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:09,520 I don't know. 653 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,520 No. 654 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:11,520 And they go, "No, we've just met." 655 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:12,520 And I go, "What the fuck? 656 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,520 It doesn't work." 657 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,520 Because, again, on TV, it's big screen, I would assume, like, 50 inches minimum. 658 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,520 There's all this, I'm hearing. 659 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,520 I'm in the space. 660 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,520 I'm in the space. 661 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,520 I don't have the same... 662 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,520 You know how many times agencies come to us? 663 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,520 They say, "Do a TVC. 664 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,520 Do a TVC. 665 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,520 It's a minute." 666 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,520 Then they look at my shots for social media. 667 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:38,520 And I'm like, "You guys do know that social media is just a different piece, you know?" 668 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,520 And I'm like, "No." 669 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,520 But because for them it's like, "Oh, it's half a meter? 670 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,520 We're going to get the value for money." 671 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,520 Because you do shots for it. 672 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:45,520 You take talking to one another. 673 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Yeah. 674 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:51,520 And the assumption is that that 22nd I'm going to do for that ad will work for TikTok. 675 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,520 Because when I tip from the main one, that's going to go and TV the one minute. 676 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,520 And I'm like, "Shoot another ad." 677 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Dedicated only for social media. 678 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,520 Even your, like, no. 679 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,520 Even your main guys on the ad. 680 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,520 Even your main guys are different. 681 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,520 TV can get away with your new face. 682 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,520 Where on the socials needs to be some sort of influence that we already know. 683 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,520 The thing is, when people are on their phone on the social streets, they are thinking changes. 684 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,520 If I'm on LinkedIn, my thinking is very different than when I'm on X. 685 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:27,520 So you need to understand, would you, if you try to sell me something on LinkedIn, it needs 686 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,520 to have a more premium feel than if you send me something to a different platform. 687 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,520 If it's on TikTok, on TikTok you've got less to no time to sell me something. 688 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Because I'm swiping that thing. 689 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:38,520 Yeah. 690 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:39,520 So you've got 0.5 over a second. 691 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,520 So whatever you're selling has to be impactful. 692 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,520 Or else I'm gone. 693 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,520 Or else on other platforms on X, it must be a still. 694 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,520 Yeah. 695 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Yup. 696 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Because I'm not clicking into that video, bro. 697 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,520 I have no time because on X I'm used to reading. 698 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Yeah, that thing is a problem, man. 699 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,520 And they expect you just to make sure it just works. 700 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:57,520 People are dumb. 701 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,520 People are dumb. 702 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:06,520 This is on the podcast and show network. 703 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,520 It's called OnSight. 704 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Yeah. 705 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,520 They're still on it. 706 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,520 No, they literally dropped an episode today. 707 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,520 It doesn't. 708 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:13,520 Oh. 709 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,520 So there's two ways where it could work. 710 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,520 No. 711 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,520 Why are you using YouTube? 712 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,520 It's not YouTube. 713 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,520 It's when you go to podcasts. 714 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,520 It's podcast. 715 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,520 And it's at the dedicated. 716 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Oh, fuck me. 717 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,520 You played this. 718 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,520 We're dealing with the timer. 719 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,520 That only SMS is. 720 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Oh, crud. 721 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,520 Hey. 722 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:29,520 Hi. 723 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:34,520 So either the other shows are in the same vein. 724 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,520 So politics, South Africa, Monday. 725 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:42,520 Yeah. 726 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,520 I think then it could work. 727 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,520 Like the daily wire. 728 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Yeah. 729 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:52,520 The other reference you make advice is I think because they create a certain type of content. 730 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:53,520 People want to watch. 731 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Yeah. 732 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:55,520 It involves different shows. 733 00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:02,520 But what you're going from 101,000 in this one is like 4,000. 734 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Yeah. 735 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,520 On a channel with 1.69 million subscribers. 736 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,520 Yes. 737 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520 You're like, how does that go even by accident? 738 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:16,520 If you clicked and subscribed and clicked the notification bell initially, I would assume when a new thing comes up. 739 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,520 But you know, go somewhere. 740 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,520 Go to my friends with the format today. 741 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,520 But how is this? 742 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,520 You speak with that. 743 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,520 I understand. 744 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,520 But after they gave me that, I'm missing. 745 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:26,520 But I don't have much. 746 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,520 But I post it within 30 minutes. 747 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,520 Like right now, I'm a friends with for his soccer show. 748 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Here's what I'm saying is maybe the format of that soccer show. 749 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,520 No, no, no, no, no. 750 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,520 You're about two different things. 751 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:37,520 You're about two different things. 752 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:38,520 You're right? 753 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:39,520 Yeah. 754 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,520 The whole thing we're speaking about is, here's our channel with a million subscribers. 755 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:44,520 Excellent. 756 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,520 Penzo, put me on your channel in China. 757 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,520 I want to leverage your audience. 758 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,520 And then as soon as you drop an episode, it does 300 views. 759 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,520 They are hitting 0.5%. 760 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:00,520 They're not even getting to 1% of the big numbers. 761 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,520 No, of the subscribers. 762 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,520 If I put you on a channel and you can't hit 1%. 763 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520 I'm looking at one that was done four weeks ago. 764 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Four weeks, you are at 0.3% age. 765 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,520 Why are your children not watching? 766 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,520 Because they might not speak to them. 767 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:19,520 I hear you. 768 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:20,520 But it's soft. 769 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,520 It doesn't mean that all the children, I'm not a soccer person. 770 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520 But they watch soccer somewhere else. 771 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:31,520 My point is, when I think of this, I think of mom, go see what's happening right now. 772 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,520 This is what I'm saying about the algorithm. 773 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:42,520 When you're on a TV channel, by accident you'll get a lot of people watching a bit of the next show 774 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,520 or at least know about it purely because you're already there. 775 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:52,520 That's why you advertise on Generation Suzanne so that people can see. 776 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,520 I'm saying, even when they started, I will make you would promote on-site. 777 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:58,520 But people wouldn't watch. 778 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520 And I'm like, it doesn't have to be 4,000 views. 779 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,520 It could be doing 20,000 on an average. 780 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:10,520 But it does so bad that I'm like, I don't think it's because the show itself is so bad 781 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,520 and people are not interested. 782 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,520 There should be just a spotlight on a spell over where do you call us on podcasts and children? 783 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,520 I've never watched it so I don't know where I'm coming from. 784 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,520 But is it totally different presenters? 785 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,520 And is there a show purely soccer? 786 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:30,520 Soccer is no go see or current training. No training topics, no nothing. 787 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,520 The only reason I'm raising it is just this thing of, this is what I told the devs are, 788 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,520 is the reason why I don't believe that having different shows on one channel works. 789 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Because most people think leverage. 790 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:48,520 Whereas I don't know if this show would do better, maybe not because of the algorithm. 791 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,520 If it was a standalone channel, I don't know. 792 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,520 I think with the same production, it could potentially do better. 793 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,520 On its own. 794 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,520 On its own. 795 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,520 But we don't know how the algorithm works. 796 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Because if I ask you this question, what views do you think they do on 1.69 million? 797 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,520 I don't think you'd be giving these numbers. 798 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Not never. 799 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,520 So this is a new algorithm. 800 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,520 I'd never. 801 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:16,520 But at least now I could say, well look, they've got 10,000 subscribers and they're hitting 3,000 episodes. 802 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,520 That's respectable. 803 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,520 You're hitting 30% of you. 804 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:19,520 I can respect that. 805 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:25,520 But if you get into a point where you're like, I've got at my disposal 1.6 million. 806 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,520 And I'm hitting 0.3% of that. 807 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Chief. 808 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,520 I don't know what they're doing wrong. 809 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,520 And if this says, I don't know if they're going to check it, it is going to be Yankulao. 810 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,520 No, I think it needs to be Yankulao. 811 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,520 I'm doing 7,000 subscribers. 812 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,520 Is he posting a lot? 813 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,520 No. 814 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,520 He's not posting. 815 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,520 Oh, amen. 816 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,520 He's not appearing on my thing anymore. 817 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,520 I don't know. 818 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,520 You're talking Yankulao on culture. 819 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,520 Yes, I'm saying. 820 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,520 No, it's podcast. 821 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520 There hasn't been filming. 822 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,520 Oh, it is. 823 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,520 This is his spreading part. 824 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,520 I was thinking of the other one. 825 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,520 I like that guy. 826 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,520 But I'm good. 827 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,520 Isn't it good? 828 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,520 Yeah? 829 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,520 It's his name. 830 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,520 Good luck. 831 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:58,520 Yeah. 832 00:26:58,520 --> 00:26:59,520 I like that guy. 833 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,520 He's a solid guy. 834 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:01,520 He's a solid guy. 835 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,520 Sometimes you see these oaks because he's got like nerdy vibes. 836 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520 He is a serious nerd and unashamed. 837 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:09,520 Yeah, I fuck up. 838 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,520 I was saying this even today with the memorial service before we get into it. 839 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,480 With a lot of the guys that I see making waves in this new space that we try to create 840 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:28,480 if I had nerdy energy, but they forced to become a chameleon in this public media mainstream 841 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,480 way. 842 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,280 You're not like, think about all SAP sales, cinema tools, all that. 843 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,400 You are forced to be an extrovert. 844 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:41,880 Now you've got these guys that were nerds that had to force themselves to become something. 845 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Now they're hitting it both sides. 846 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Who do you think? 847 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,920 I thought nerds would be their thing, man. 848 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,320 I know it's a lack of room. 849 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,320 I think nerds have always been a thing. 850 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,320 It's just they weren't famous. 851 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:54,320 I think nerds knew how to dress and then they did the algorithm in terms of these are the 852 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,320 jokes I need to say. 853 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,320 I need to cut my hair. 854 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:07,320 This is how I, once nerds hit that, I sit in the UFC, I am an addict. 855 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,400 I am a UFC fucking bitch. 856 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320 A lot of those guys that are the top guys are nerds. 857 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,200 Maybe it's when school became important for everyone. 858 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Okay. 859 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,200 Maybe. 860 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,200 Or is it not when they started to make money? 861 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,200 Who? 862 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,200 Nerds. 863 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,200 That that's when they became cool. 864 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:25,200 You don't know. 865 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Look, I think they've always been nerds historically, but it was the, the prone, bolder guys that 866 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,440 were dope and not the strategists. 867 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,960 I think when we were all forced into school and away from outside living, I think then 868 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:44,280 when the, the guys who were winning at the school game started becoming a bit popular. 869 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:45,720 Maybe then we all became forced to form them. 870 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,800 But I'm, I'm using something like prone, nah? 871 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,880 I need you saying part in the form. 872 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,120 So UFC is your prone type of thing. 873 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,280 But the nerds are now shining. 874 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,520 What is prone, prone, prone, like muscle muscle muscle muscle. 875 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,200 So now if you watch the UFC, it's not the nerds that are winning because they'll get 876 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,320 into something like chit chit chit, which is chess of the martial arts. 877 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,000 So they know how to study it. 878 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,640 So as we were saying, these guys will strategize how to beat your ass prone, okay, my ass between 879 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,640 the soft thing. 880 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,640 So yeah, nah, nah, they chase. 881 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,720 We're not getting older, nah, nah, they chase, shosh, shosh, shosh, shosh, shosh, shosh. 882 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:17,720 Mom's in bow out. 883 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,720 Yeah, tah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah, shah. 884 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:20,720 And you see this even in rugby. 885 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,840 All of a sudden you sit with some of these guys and you're like, that's an actual nerd. 886 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,480 But he's realized, but you know, the way that I need to trim and the way that I watch 887 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,520 out, he's calculating in his very strategic, like a chess guy. 888 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,520 Sure. 889 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:37,200 You know, like a guy who was good with computers, he's, these computers is, what if I eat this 890 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:47,800 mini macros and if I eat this mini, they're gonna, and I make sure that I'm gonna tell her, and I'll run this mini, and I'll run this mini, and I'll just fart and with the rugby if I calculate the it, you know, from the wind, it, it, it. 891 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800 So sure, I need the crowning. 892 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:50,800 I'm gonna dare. 893 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360 I think that's a real life example of what I'm saying. 894 00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Once the school kids started becoming popular, the school skills became a thing. 895 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:05,000 I think, nah, we interrupted you, Phage, you wanted to speak about what I was, I'm sorry. 896 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,000 Sorry. 897 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:11,440 It's the same, and it's, you know, I was just thinking about it. 898 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,440 Yes. 899 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,120 The impact of whom she's a man. 900 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:33,440 There's something about people are vocal about stuff that people, most people are not speak about, you know, and I always say, man, you shouldn't be a hero for South Africans, man, from all the people that have been killed, because things just move on, and whom she that just didn't 901 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:38,080 care, and I think it was, he understood the routine. 902 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:43,240 There might be some consequences about what I speak about, but it is, it is what it is. 903 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,880 So, yeah, I mean, I just want to, you know, condolences to the family. 904 00:30:47,880 --> 00:31:00,760 I know this is gonna end, Jen, but my one takeaway for, for more hours, the idea of in 905 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:16,400 Nozak, 'cause when you guys spoke about, you guys, 'cause I've seen what you guys have been posting under launch, you guys have been speaking about in No, Singles, and it made me think about off camera, you know, speak about that, even sometimes on camera, you know, that that's the biggest moment of 906 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:42,400 trying for me, and I was like, "Oh, what type of dead am I?" Man, boy, that ain't nozam, would they be like, "No clear, be guilty, Jen, you know?" So, I've been thinking a lot about the type of dead that I am, you know, when my kids speak about the way we say what I spoke about, it's time to have, you know, so yeah, I mean, condolences to the family, man, and for me, the biggest 907 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,020 I guess Tigo is family, the power of family and loving your kids no matter what. 908 00:31:48,020 --> 00:31:50,360 Manini will be like, "Ah, you're a soft dad." 909 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:51,880 But because of that, that's what I know. 910 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:52,880 "That's what I know." 911 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,800 "I know you're a soft dad." 912 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,760 "I know you're a soft dad." 913 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,240 "Yeah, I know you're a soft dad." 914 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,280 "I know you're a soft dad." 915 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200 "Yeah, I know you're a soft dad." 916 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,440 "You're a soft dad." 917 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,440 "You're a soft dad." 918 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,240 "That's what you're a soft dad." 919 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,040 "You're a soft dad." 920 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,240 "You're a soft dad." 921 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:10,240 "Yeah, you're a soft dad." 922 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,240 "You're a soft dad." 923 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,240 "You're a soft dad." 924 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,160 "Well, but please, can I get a cream soda float?" 925 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,160 "Yeah, you know." 926 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,560 So for me, when the building thing, illegal stuff, for me, there was not a touching point 927 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,760 for me, honestly. 928 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,920 But just what he meant to his kids, and he made me question, what type of dad am I? 929 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,920 And what are my flaws? 930 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,480 And what can you change, you know? 931 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:36,120 In no second, it's like this guy would be with me from 6 a.m. until 9 p.m. 932 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,120 Hospital. 933 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,560 And the nurses would complain, because I've met someone in the hospital, and you know 934 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,280 after a certain time they start to complain, "This is not your place." 935 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:50,560 The fact that it's not "Hey, I'm going to be 6 a.m. until 9 p.m." 936 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,600 That stuck with me, that said something about the type of dad that he was. 937 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,240 And you want those things, when irrelevant of how the kids turn out, the fact that they 938 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,320 can come out and say, "He was there when I needed him the most," because that's what 939 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,320 the kid said. 940 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320 That's a major thing, man. 941 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Do you know so, to jump in, I think? 942 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,000 What hit me today, you know, I was crying like a bitch the whole time. 943 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,840 Sorry, by today, we were filming on the 19th of December. 944 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,000 I just wanted to confirm that this is dropping in January, please. 945 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:26,120 We're filming this on the day of his memorial service, 19th December, 2025. 946 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:37,080 So what confirmed today is how social media views you, versus people that actually know 947 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,280 you. 948 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560 And it's not like you're a fake version of anything. 949 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,480 We spoke about how people can take certain clips, and they take it out of context, and 950 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,360 you just get this, so now build a narrative summary. 951 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,760 This person's racist, this person's a chauvinist, this person is this and that, purely based 952 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:58,700 on that 10 second that they took out of context, you know, and you have so many people, because 953 00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:04,160 when Ora's passed and you're watching, you know, reading comments on Twitter, I was taken 954 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:11,880 aback with how many negative comments I was reading, and I was sickened by that. 955 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,660 You know, there's a guy, I don't want to give him any A-play, but now he's also a person 956 00:34:16,660 --> 00:34:22,080 that does videos and he's very popular, and you're seeing the most negative shit. 957 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:29,680 And I'm like, it's one thing to say, I don't like him as a DJ, you know, I don't like him 958 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:39,680 as a, whatever his job is, but when you start having personal attacks as if you know him, 959 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,480 like I draw the line there, and I'm like, bro, you've got such a following to be spewing 960 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,480 so much negativity, which he does, just passed away. 961 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:58,040 This guy has, he's got kids, he's got a mom, he's got so many people, you know, that love 962 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:05,280 him, for you to be able to say this negative stuff a day or two of these past, like I look 963 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,560 at you and I'm like, I'm sickened, like I don't know you personally, but like (speaks 964 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:32,640 foreign language) 965 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,640 Sorry. 966 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,960 And that's his career, that's what he put out there. 967 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:41,000 When you start talking about personal intimate stuff, and this is where I hate social media 968 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:48,800 when you talk about these personas as a father, you're a deadbeat dead, how the fuck do you 969 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,720 know me, bro, are you sitting with like my kids, are my kids telling you this, what the 970 00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:59,520 fuck do you know this, you just took what that person said and that person said and you 971 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,480 pieced it together and none of these fucking cunt faces know who I am, and I'm listening 972 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,520 to this because we had the privilege of being at the momal service and you're listening 973 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:14,840 to his kids, and his kids are crying, and I'm listening to his sister shout out to Nicole, 974 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:21,440 I'm listening, I'm like fucking out, his family, this guy spoke brilliantly, like fucking amazing, 975 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:28,560 I'm crying, I'm listening to all the different people talking about him, pH, and I'm going 976 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,360 oh my fuck, this guy was so loved, and the people are speaking about people that know him, 977 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:40,600 not in Nina, and as I must sound bites or 10 seconds, and then you speak in garbage. 978 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,480 How dare your fucking thumbs type negative things about a personal life you don't know, 979 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:53,840 talk about it from a politician, as a politician, talk about Michael Schumacher as a driver, 980 00:36:53,840 --> 00:37:02,560 not for you to speak about him as fathers, as if in Ghana, do you remember what the person 981 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,200 was speaking about? 982 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:09,520 You're speaking about this, Woody, how he's, we are PAP in the sense of what he's doing 983 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:14,920 with the with the buildings, okay, and the security company, because the guy was speaking 984 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:21,960 about Woody, apparently what is was there to check if there was electricity in the buildings, 985 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,600 but those guys like, but what else you were there for your job, you hide for security, 986 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,480 so what are you doing, looking at electricity when you're there for security, but why would 987 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,480 that touch you? 988 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,520 Clearly, you didn't watch the episode to understand that the league went beyond just security. 989 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,760 The reason why it touched me is because now you're going to call Montecelima, but you 990 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,200 don't know, I mean to you, for example, do you know his contract? 991 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,920 Do you know what he wanted and tells the fine print around what security looks like? 992 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:57,320 The reason I'm asking is, I'm a bit worried that you're doing the thing that you're accusing 993 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:58,320 him of. 994 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,320 Yes. 995 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,840 So I'll tell you what, I'm not attacking this guy and he's personal because you don't know 996 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,840 him in real life. 997 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:03,840 Perfect. 998 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:04,840 So you might meet him in real life. 999 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,840 I'm only his family. 1000 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:06,840 I'm only his kids. 1001 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840 You've only seen a clip. 1002 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080 I'm not talking about his weight, his mom, his cranny. 1003 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,160 That's what I was asking once this guy was speaking about. 1004 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,320 I'm trying to explain it. 1005 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,320 Sure. 1006 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,320 Okay. 1007 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,320 I'm trying to explain. 1008 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,320 Sure. 1009 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,320 I'm talking on social media. 1010 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,320 Yes. 1011 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,640 And I'm saying that is what is toxic. 1012 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,560 So just because that's how people talk, that's what we do. 1013 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:33,320 Long time to hear me out a few weeks ago, okay, a few weeks ago. 1014 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520 We spoke about that husband podcast. 1015 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,160 You never made black newborn. 1016 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,720 You hadn't really watched the podcast. 1017 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:44,720 You gave your opinion without knowing then you ought to know him, which is a great privilege. 1018 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:45,720 What, what, what else? 1019 00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:47,560 But he didn't say anything about black newborn. 1020 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,040 And he said, no, I'm going to do a cane. 1021 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,040 Yeah. 1022 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,040 His podcast. 1023 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,040 That's, that's what I said. 1024 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,040 And no, no, no, no, no. 1025 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,040 No, no, no, no. 1026 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,040 No, no, no, no. 1027 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,040 No, no, no, no. 1028 00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,040 I was it. 1029 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,040 I was it. 1030 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,040 I was it. 1031 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,040 I was it. 1032 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,040 I said the podcast. 1033 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:04,040 Be honest. 1034 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,040 I didn't think it was a person. 1035 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,040 I didn't speak about him as a man. 1036 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040 Do you think it was a person? 1037 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040 No, no, no. 1038 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,040 No, no, no. 1039 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,040 I didn't apologize to the man. 1040 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,040 So I'm speaking about the manner of speaking. 1041 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,040 When you like. 1042 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,040 Yeah. 1043 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:15,040 I podcast the arcane. 1044 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Yeah. 1045 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,360 Like, I love you to be slim. 1046 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,120 I'm saying people speak like that online. 1047 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,920 No, but I want to be clear. 1048 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,480 But you know, I hear the nuance. 1049 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,880 No, my thing is someone, someone will hear you. 1050 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,880 Yeah. 1051 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,880 And be like, no, I was watching that. 1052 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,880 I'm a changed piece of shit podcast. 1053 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,520 But dancing is not even mad. 1054 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,760 And it was they're just talking shit about black newborn. 1055 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,000 Who the fuck does any area get worked up? 1056 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,000 Okay. 1057 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,000 Which is what social media does. 1058 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000 Sure, sure. 1059 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,160 And I'm not sure to defend a person. 1060 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:41,160 I don't know. 1061 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:45,000 I'm just I wanted to have a follow up question of, but let me finish my point. 1062 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:54,520 Is there is there a conversation to be held around an online persona versus a real life? 1063 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,960 Because there's real life and real life. 1064 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,100 Most people don't know anyone to be fully honest. 1065 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,100 Sure. 1066 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:09,560 So it's unfair for me to say, when I don't know you personally, then there's an online 1067 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:16,360 persona where whenever women for change, say stuff, you're like, miniature, right? 1068 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,000 So I end up being like, this guy's an abuser, but I don't know you in real life. 1069 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,200 And we create these perceptions online, which many of us have unfortunately been victims 1070 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:32,360 of perception perception about Charlie Kirk and the like, and people create a perception. 1071 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,600 And when you look at the receipts online, because they don't know you in real life, they 1072 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,920 not at memorial services, they don't know your kids, they don't know your work, that's 1073 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:40,920 all they have. 1074 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:47,360 And when you're watching, trying to think of an example, I can't think of one. 1075 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,520 When you're watching someone that you may not like online, for whatever reason, how many 1076 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,920 are already talking about smashing palms, but you don't know that is polite to women 1077 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,920 in real life. 1078 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,920 He loves his mom. 1079 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,800 Are we not allowed online? 1080 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360 Because it's not in real life. 1081 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,440 I would not allowed online to say, based on the persona you've sold to me, I could be 1082 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,440 wrong even. 1083 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,120 It could be differing opinions. 1084 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,520 I think there's something wrong with you, I don't like you, or I think you are. 1085 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,440 And then people in your real life are like, oh, that's the online stuff. 1086 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,680 Tina, in real life, we know him. 1087 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,680 So we don't mind. 1088 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,400 Because what happens is you get upset with someone and this is a really real thing. 1089 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:29,560 You get upset with someone online because they speak about kids with autism and it becomes 1090 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,240 a fat joke and they laugh. 1091 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:33,880 You've got a kid with autism. 1092 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,600 They speak about women in a certain way, they speak about black people, they speak about 1093 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,400 white people. 1094 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,560 And then someone translates, takes online to real life. 1095 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,600 And then certain people might get harmed. 1096 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,840 When you actually look at the receipts online, you're like, so, but it would only work on 1097 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,840 some level of personality. 1098 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,840 But it's different. 1099 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,840 But yeah, it's different. 1100 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,840 Which is all I wanted to do. 1101 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,840 So I just wanted to get back to my point. 1102 00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,820 Part of the reason, sorry, before you care on Pinsen, part of the reason I am stopping 1103 00:42:00,820 --> 00:42:07,520 Pinsen and I am asking these questions is because I know it's when something is personal 1104 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160 to us, it's very true. 1105 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,160 Okay. 1106 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,160 But I want to clear up. 1107 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,160 No, you're clear. 1108 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,160 Yeah. 1109 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:16,160 Okay. 1110 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,160 And when something is not, we become detached. 1111 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Sure. 1112 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,920 So I wanted it to be a teachable moment, even for us here, so that Nati, when we look at 1113 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:31,660 people calling up a deadbeat father, you're like, hey, have I ever called, I mean, you 1114 00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:36,040 pill to see you boy, have I ever said, slay queen, I'm as brilliant. 1115 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,920 The thing I said about it may have actually hurt people because I don't know them in real 1116 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:40,920 life. 1117 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:46,640 So we, we're all meant to learn, take something away to be like, yeah, in the same hands I 1118 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:51,160 learned or that I don't really like, cause I know for me what Pinsen saying, I've done 1119 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,160 a lot. 1120 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,880 It sounded like you were speaking about me, which is why I'm asking what to say. 1121 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,880 What can you say? 1122 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,600 Because I've said a lot of you have done that. 1123 00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,600 Yeah. 1124 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:05,960 So again, just again, you have, but again, if I say, okay, no, the caveat is that I don't 1125 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,920 know what to cross in his personal capacity. 1126 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,760 And I'm talking about his music, no me specifically. 1127 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,200 I try to clarify as best as I can, a good tea. 1128 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,280 Not every podcast is my cup of tea. 1129 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:22,720 So when I said wood tea, oh, black and the podcast, I never ever ever, and I never apologized 1130 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:25,640 to something I didn't do because I don't believe I attacked this character because I don't 1131 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:26,640 know him. 1132 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,320 I didn't talk about him as a father, as a husband, as a, you know, and again, I even 1133 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,560 said I was a former point of ignorance. 1134 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,880 I said this on our podcast when I was, yeah, I said it's a week before when I was on the 1135 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,480 Easter for the market, man, I was like, bro. 1136 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,480 And he knew that. 1137 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,840 He was like, he laughing and shit like that, because it was never a personal attack. 1138 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,680 If someone says, you're a person, you are Kenya, right? 1139 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,840 That person is talking about the podcast. 1140 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:57,880 That person is not talking about the pin scene because I don't know how to show, right? 1141 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:04,080 The second that person says, who pins in the shit father, hey, there's no kids on this 1142 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,080 podcast. 1143 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,400 So the fuck are you talking about? 1144 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:08,400 I'm a shit father. 1145 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,360 How do you know that? 1146 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,720 Do you see now where the overstepping is? 1147 00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:13,720 Yeah. 1148 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,320 So if you actually listen to this and I don't want to give this guy any like lights or anything, 1149 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:23,240 he actually deep dives as if young god, young god, I don't know what's the thing you're 1150 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,240 speaking about. 1151 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,240 But I'll say it to you. 1152 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:26,480 There's a lot of shit people online. 1153 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,360 It's almost as if you read his contract. 1154 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,800 You are only meant to stand there as much in your life. 1155 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,880 It's almost as if you were there on the day. 1156 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,760 It's almost as if you had 20, 20 vision. 1157 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,000 It's almost I'm like, bro, son, you're a dog. 1158 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Yeah. 1159 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:49,360 See, there's certain things OK, OK, OK, now about that one, even if you're all right, 1160 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,800 it's OK, OK, now about that. 1161 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,320 Maybe it was also the timing. 1162 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,360 If you'd said it three weeks ago, you'd have taken it a bit different. 1163 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,360 Of course. 1164 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,360 This is the timing. 1165 00:44:58,360 --> 00:44:59,360 Yeah. 1166 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,800 Well, look, if I say, hey, since it looks like he's going to be a shit dad, he's not 1167 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,800 a dad. 1168 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,520 He's going to take it differently. 1169 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:11,720 But if you're expecting a child, and I say the thing, that takes a different form. 1170 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:14,400 And if you're a dad, that takes a different form. 1171 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,640 So we need to understand with everything the context is so important of what you say when 1172 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,640 you say it. 1173 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:20,640 That's also very important. 1174 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,200 I want to go to what you're saying. 1175 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:23,200 But it goes to context. 1176 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,320 I mean, I learned their timing for me is a big thing, man. 1177 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,120 I want to take my body and fade to ash. 1178 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,080 You can go me a bitch, now. 1179 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,200 But there's a time and a place to call me a bitch. 1180 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,400 If you see a man in a vulnerable space, I'm with my kids, I'm loving my heart. 1181 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,400 You can't. 1182 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,400 Now you're like, hey, there's a bitch. 1183 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,400 Yeah. 1184 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:47,240 I mean, I hate the fact that, you know, it's, it's, it's not even how many days in faith 1185 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,240 we've seen. 1186 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:53,000 Bro, I, I, I, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there, I'm sitting there like a bitch because 1187 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,640 we are seeing the closest people and I'm the most amazing, he's kids. 1188 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,600 I mean, I don't know what you gain from saying those things is it views, like, what do you 1189 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,600 gain? 1190 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:08,760 I mean, from someone up or I say those things, the same person of fucking shit that when 1191 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:15,240 his kids are like, we love him, when his kids are singing his praises, yet you, who you, 1192 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:20,360 the closest you've ever seen him is your screen, man, I don't even need the kids to say anything 1193 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:21,360 man. 1194 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,640 I mean, I'm thinking there's a, I don't know who respect the fan that if it's, I mean, 1195 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,680 I'm saying these things would go to put a two days ago, three days ago, like this must 1196 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,600 be something wrong in you. 1197 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,600 Who you just articulate. 1198 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,640 Even, even if it's all my serial people that I don't even like, yeah, fan of it, you should 1199 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,640 that. 1200 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,640 It's, it's time me, bro. 1201 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,160 So tell me, tell me of an I talk shit about politics all the time. 1202 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:53,200 Have we ever spoke as, oh, Julius as a father, Julius as a husband, Julius as a businessman, 1203 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,480 we've never gone into that. 1204 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,280 We literally limited to what his public job is. 1205 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,760 If I want to speak to a woman, only as he could be the biggest racist in the world. 1206 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,760 We don't know. 1207 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,760 Hypothetically, he could be whatever. 1208 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,200 No, he could be a womanizer. 1209 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,200 We don't know that. 1210 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,560 So if I say I don't like, we may see, I'm talking in the context of his football. 1211 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,560 That's the problem. 1212 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,240 And going back to onto your question, the problem with social media is that it feeds 1213 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,000 the algorithms that we obviously entertain. 1214 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:28,000 So going to a messy or Christian or Ronaldo, if you are a health guy and you also watch 1215 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:34,120 or Ronaldo, it's going to probably serve you algorithms of what Ronaldo eats, right? 1216 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,600 Oh, no, there's a gym guy, but he also likes or not, it's going to show him more of Ronaldo's 1217 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,900 gym stuff. 1218 00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:46,000 If I'm a fashionista and I like Ronaldo, it's going to show me him and how he dresses. 1219 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,000 Yeah. 1220 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,000 Right. 1221 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,240 So now we have curated views on Christian. 1222 00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:53,640 Your one is more to do with his diet. 1223 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,660 His one more to do with his gym, mine is more to do with his fashion. 1224 00:47:58,660 --> 00:48:00,440 Same thing with Charlie Kirk, right? 1225 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,880 There's people that were literally on social media just talking about him as a father because 1226 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,960 I can assume that what they double clicked on was him with his kids and then the algorithm 1227 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,960 was like, Oh, okay. 1228 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,960 You like him when he's with his kids? 1229 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:12,960 Okay. 1230 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,960 Let's feed you more. 1231 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,000 There's some people that were just talking about him as a Christian, right? 1232 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,160 Because they were double clicking on that. 1233 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,240 And whenever they were watching Christian things, they'd be like, Hey, you might also 1234 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:24,360 like this and they'll show Charlie Cook talking about a Jesus verse. 1235 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,360 Some people they like Charlie Cook is a racist because they watching some racial things and 1236 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,320 then they'll sound by it's clip. 1237 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,280 I'm one of those people that told Charlie Cook was a racist because again, what I was 1238 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,960 fed was that and so on and so forth. 1239 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,520 And then we create these personas. 1240 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,520 Yeah. 1241 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,360 Now you create these personas. 1242 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,200 You don't fucking know these people, bro. 1243 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,200 So you need to have a little. 1244 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,560 So you're saying to people that they must comment on what they've seen. 1245 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:56,680 I'm saying have a bit of grace, have a bit of grace because when a person goes into a 1246 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,880 public space, they are saying, I'm using this. 1247 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:00,920 I'm a radio DJ. 1248 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:01,920 I'm a soccer player. 1249 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:02,920 I'm an actress. 1250 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:03,920 I'm a chef. 1251 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,720 Now the same way that they have a job working at the bank or whatever the case may be as 1252 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:08,720 a nurse. 1253 00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:10,880 Now, if that's the public thing. 1254 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:17,920 Now if my waiter at repair is not being efficient, I'll say, Hey, look, my food came 1255 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,320 in cold. 1256 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,840 But now for me to start talking about her shoes. 1257 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,840 What about her shoes, bro? 1258 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:29,240 And I don't like the fact that we'll go here week. 1259 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:30,240 I'm all chief. 1260 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:31,240 What do I say? 1261 00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:32,240 I'm a woman. 1262 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:36,480 And that's my biggest problem because in social media, sometimes people feel too familiar with 1263 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:37,760 the wrong things. 1264 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,840 Some of the comments that I was reading and I'm sorry I got worked up because I did get 1265 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:47,840 worked up because I'm like, chief, like, what makes you say what you're saying? 1266 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,280 Where, where is this coming from? 1267 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:58,840 You know, I'm chief, that's who is literally trying to do what our police should be doing. 1268 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,520 The reason why we have private security is because we can say our police are overworked 1269 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,280 or it's inefficient or it's caught up, whatever the case is. 1270 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,920 But ideally in a well-run society, you shouldn't have private police. 1271 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:11,280 You shouldn't have private schools. 1272 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,040 You shouldn't have private hospitals because we pay tax. 1273 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,160 The state should cover all of that thing. 1274 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440 But unfortunately, we live in South Africa. 1275 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,200 So there is a need for that. 1276 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,480 And now all of a sudden, I'm just doing what he was doing, his job. 1277 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,280 Now he must get fished in the way that he was getting fished in. 1278 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,840 The message that was being sent out there on a public holiday in the middle of the day. 1279 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,840 Well, not in the middle, but like four o'clock. 1280 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,320 A captain's center. 1281 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,240 What used to be that? 1282 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,040 I think it happened in the morning. 1283 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,040 Happened at four in the afternoon. 1284 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,600 Oh, I thought it was in the morning. 1285 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,000 No, I was chatting with him the same day we were chatting in the morning. 1286 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,080 And what else was being accounted? 1287 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:49,080 You know what? 1288 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:50,880 It's being a fucking lady, fatty. 1289 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,880 Yeah. 1290 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,040 So like, yeah, so like it was that. 1291 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,280 It's a public holiday. 1292 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,680 So think about it down. 1293 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,440 It was on a public holiday where four is cut. 1294 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,080 A captain's center, wouldn't you? 1295 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,360 So clearly you're trying to do a message. 1296 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:08,720 You're trying to say something. 1297 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:13,960 You're trying to say, yeah, well, and then for people on social media, for clicks, for 1298 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:19,400 likes, for clouds, for whatever to say what they said, when they say what they said. 1299 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,600 There's a different way. 1300 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680 I think I didn't do social media, so it's not for my address. 1301 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,680 It's a song. 1302 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,160 I think it's for my address. 1303 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,160 It's for me. 1304 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,160 It's for me. 1305 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,160 I think it's for me. 1306 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,160 It's for me. 1307 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,160 It's for me. 1308 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,160 It's for me. 1309 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,160 It's for me. 1310 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,160 It's for me. 1311 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:36,160 It's for me. 1312 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,160 It's for me. 1313 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,160 I think it's for me. 1314 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,840 I don't want to prove. Because there's people that hide behind fucking, in these intonates, 1315 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:49,960 they don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie. 1316 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,520 They don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie. 1317 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,320 They don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie, they don't have to be a zombie. 1318 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:03,440 I think that if we had that system, social media wouldn't be as toxic. 1319 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,760 Yes. Social media would not be as toxic. 1320 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:11,200 Because they're not as toxic as they are, they don't have to be as toxic as they are. 1321 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,760 Yes, please. No, thank you. No, that was us. 1322 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,520 - No, it's not us. - No, it's us. 1323 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,960 - But no, yes. - Yes. 1324 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,240 - I like the car that I like. - What do you mean? - I like the car that I like. 1325 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,320 - How? - I like the car that I like. 1326 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:36,000 - But I like the car that I like. - I like the car that I like. 1327 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,960 - I like the car that I like. - No, no, no. - It's not us. 1328 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,720 - I like the car that I like. - It's not us. 1329 00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:49,600 - I like the car that I like. - I like the car that I like. 1330 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:56,640 And it was one of those things where I thought about my own passing. 1331 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:04,960 If I have my friends and family feeling like that, it doesn't have to be a one. 1332 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:11,440 But if my friends and family come and give me the respect that they gave work, 1333 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,760 I did a point. I know what I've done something. 1334 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,760 I don't have time. This is negative. Good Twitter. This is negative. 1335 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,040 It's not going to need. 1336 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:36,640 - So, I want to start off again by sending my sympathies and condolences to 1337 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:44,480 Warwick's mother, kids, siblings, extended family and all his friends and 1338 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:49,120 all his fans and his business associates. 1339 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,800 It said this episode will drop then in January because-- 1340 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,880 - We'll do a clip, like you said. - We'll do a shot. 1341 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,480 But I'm just saying, I'm hoping it won't open wounds again 1342 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,440 for some people that are in the process of healing. 1343 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,760 - But this thing happened last year. - That's a bad point. 1344 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:08,400 So, I apologize. We are filming this on the 19th of December. 1345 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:14,720 And it would be wrong for us to not raise it on this platform, 1346 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:18,000 in particular, because Juarez was here. 1347 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,960 Three things I want to say, the first one is-- 1348 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,720 it becomes ironic that one of the jokes Juarez sitting right in this chair 1349 00:54:24,720 --> 00:54:29,680 would make was how we've lost our father and Juarez still has his father. 1350 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,880 And every time-- every time Juarez would say something, 1351 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,520 you're like, "Well, I was my dad. Maybe you have a dad. We don't have a dad." 1352 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,560 - And he went down with a joke. - Yeah. 1353 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,840 - Sure. - Well, we don't have a dad. 1354 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,240 You have a dad. - How does it feel to have a dad? 1355 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:51,760 - That would be ironic. It was great having him here, man. 1356 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:58,240 And the wisdom that he constantly dropped in the mix of jokes, 1357 00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:04,480 you know, really, really talented human being in so many ways is the first thing. 1358 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,720 The second thing is-- I'll take this moment, you know, 1359 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:14,480 based on Pence and getting so emotional to apologize for where I've 1360 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,840 done wrong and this thing is raising. I just can't think of examples, 1361 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,280 but I'd like to think I've probably said a lot of really personal, 1362 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:29,600 hurtful things to people online, unintentionally, just sharing my views, 1363 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,200 as we normally do on social media, which may have triggered people, 1364 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,400 you know, in a similar vein as us triggering the fans of an L.M. daughter, 1365 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,480 the day, who I was here and things were raised and some people could have caught 1366 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,680 offense in various ways. They may not do the distinguishing, its business, 1367 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,400 its work, it's might just be like in Telilumu. 1368 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,080 And honey, if you've got no boundaries. 1369 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,560 - Yeah, like Teddy said for nothing that day, hey? - Sorry? 1370 00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,280 - By different people. - Yeah, that's why. 1371 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,920 - Yeah, people search, you know, a bunch of men around the table, 1372 00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:03,280 gossiping or whatever. - No, but what does it say, it's like, oh, like, 1373 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,920 didn't he mean? - No, but you isolated yourself because 1374 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,560 you have a link and it goes back to even the other thing. 1375 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,360 - It's very easy when you have a link to be protected. 1376 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,320 - Yeah, because you are meant to do more. 1377 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,560 - Yes, it's a quotation. - Those people, yes. 1378 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,800 - Which is fair though. - Especially the proximity head to that person. 1379 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:29,280 - I can understand when she said to him, end up, you didn't do enough. 1380 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:34,480 - Yeah, yeah. So, I'm just apologizing for myself. 1381 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:36,320 Because, again, listening to Pence and I'm like, 1382 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:40,880 I'm sure I've said someone is stupid before, without really knowing them. 1383 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,960 Yes, they may have been our context, but the way it comes across. 1384 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:49,600 I don't know if I've personally, my timing's been off. 1385 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,240 The one example I can think of was, there was an accusation of assault on a child. 1386 00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,040 This year, and I shared my views and many people took offense. 1387 00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:00,000 I did apologize afterwards and I did remove my views, 1388 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,200 but many people felt as well that the timing was off. 1389 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,840 But outside of that, I can't think of any, 1390 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,640 but it does become a teachable moment for me, 1391 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,640 and I'm hoping for other people. 1392 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,440 Not to say that people will change, because they won't. 1393 00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,960 They really won't, because we're not the same online. 1394 00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,280 But to ask that we all try to do better, 1395 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,840 and especially when things have been raised. 1396 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:28,160 So this person that Pence is being about, if ever they read the comments 1397 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,240 and they saw some people saying this is insensitive, 1398 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:36,160 we've lost someone, and for them to maybe, number one, I do this. 1399 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,080 You remove that content, you remove it. 1400 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,000 Doesn't matter if it's done three million views. 1401 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:46,240 If you have a heart, if you don't, we're obviously speaking to a demon. 1402 00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:51,040 You remove that content and then you apologize, because that's all we have. 1403 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:56,320 It could be that at a time you thought what you were saying was smart, or bright, 1404 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,440 or it could help, or you're like, no, man, you can't all be crying for Charlie Kirk. 1405 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:06,560 What? So someone might be like, look, this person was a husband, he had kids, 1406 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,160 you know him personally, and you're going around saying all these things. 1407 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,040 You never said these things while you were alive. 1408 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,080 Now, conveniently, my sashrone, many of us. 1409 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:21,520 That's why the spotlight gets shown, it becomes a thing, 1410 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,720 until it's someone close to you. 1411 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:28,080 So just for me, it's a learning moment to keep trying, to be better. 1412 00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:34,160 I do want to emphasize again that there is an online personality and a real-life personality, 1413 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,880 and I'd like to implore more of us, something that depends on us raised many times, 1414 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,080 try to align your real life to your online. 1415 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,640 I know it's difficult to speak, we need to do a job. 1416 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,800 - Mm-hmm. - Well, it's, mm-hmm. 1417 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:52,800 - But Kirill, sorry, sorry. - Yes, yes, yes. 1418 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,480 - Cool, cool. - Thank you, sir, before I post that, 1419 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,800 it would treat an attribute, I need to get the very... 1420 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:00,960 - Yeah, they did the different speeches here. 1421 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,040 - But policy, no, no, no. - Yeah, my comment. 1422 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,520 - So are they because the drug dealer? - Drug dealer. 1423 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,360 - What do you mean? - What do you mean? 1424 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:10,240 - What do you mean? - What do you mean? 1425 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,520 - One of the comments. - One of the comments, say that. 1426 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:12,880 - One comment. - Yeah, say you're a drug dealer. 1427 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,360 - Yeah, you want to have to learn a lot of things, I'll speak about the so. 1428 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,680 - No, no, I'm talking about a line. - What do you mean? 1429 00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,720 - What do I have? - What do I have? 1430 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,680 - Huh? - Are you serious? 1431 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,200 - I don't know. - One of the comments was like, 1432 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:22,240 "Don't you use guys a drug dealer?" 1433 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720 - I am right there, someone wrote that he's a drug dealer. 1434 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,360 And I'm trying to find out, because this is a safe drug. 1435 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,320 - Are you funding us? 1436 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,680 - Comatraz. - Mm-hmm. 1437 00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:30,320 - Okay, sir. 1438 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,000 - Comcona, as you know, it's a good way to learn. 1439 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,760 - Yeah, Mulayta is... 1440 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,600 - Mm-hmm. - [LAUGHS] 1441 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,320 - Uh, so... 1442 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:39,600 - Sir, here... - This becomes... 1443 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,760 - There's a matraz. - Not a no, you... 1444 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,560 - The matraz. - The matraz. - The matraz. 1445 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,320 - Don't be the same. - Why not? 1446 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,160 - But I need you to elaborate more, because I stopped you. 1447 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,360 - That's not okay. - Okay, sir. 1448 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:52,480 - Okay, sir. - Yes, sir. 1449 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,280 So it becomes difficult when your online is your job, 1450 00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,760 because then you might perform in a certain way, 1451 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,840 and people might misconstrue. 1452 01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,920 The real, for me, has to do more with... 1453 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,480 if there's a certain way that you are in real life, 1454 01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,600 that you'd like people to know, 1455 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,320 try and work on that, because online is very tricky. 1456 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,040 It's very difficult, there's soundpights, there's clips. 1457 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,640 People see one tweet, then they're like, 1458 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,160 "Here's a misogynist, because of one tweet 1459 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,880 that trended five million views." 1460 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,880 And all the other 20,000 tweets where you are loving women, 1461 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,200 those never trended, so no one really cares. 1462 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,880 It's almost like violence. 1463 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,560 You slap a woman once. 1464 01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,320 - You're an abuser. - No one wants to know 1465 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:36,960 that you've been funding women's shelters. 1466 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,080 You once helped women that were victims of abuse. 1467 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,960 And you fund young girls at school. 1468 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,160 - Doesn't matter, you're an abuser. 1469 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:45,360 - No one cares. 1470 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:47,360 (speaking in foreign language) 1471 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,360 (speaking in foreign language) 1472 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:50,200 It wasn't really true. 1473 01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:51,680 No one cares, they'll always be like, 1474 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,160 "Oh, you're the guy that slapped her." 1475 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,560 Because unfortunately, that's just how it works. 1476 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,960 So my whole thing is to say where you can, 1477 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,840 try and build an online persona. 1478 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:03,760 Maybe let me not say a line. 1479 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320 Let me try and say, try and build an online persona 1480 01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,280 that when you get, when you ask third parties, 1481 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,880 it's what you're trying to translate. 1482 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,840 And if it's not, then tweak it. 1483 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,640 If you're trying to be a clown, 1484 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:18,720 and people are like, "You're not funny." 1485 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,840 You're like, "ish, let me go work on it." 1486 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,680 If you're trying to be and rotate. 1487 01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:25,720 And people are like, "Oh, look at pencil." 1488 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,320 And rotate right there, I'm so harmless. 1489 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,600 He tries to be a misogynist, 1490 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,360 but man, I just want him to hug me. 1491 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,240 You're like, "Okay, this is not translating, 1492 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,120 "so I need to tweak." 1493 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,800 So I'm just saying, trying to align your intentions 1494 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,520 with lots of online, because can I jump on that? 1495 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:44,720 Okay, I'm sorry. 1496 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,320 So for me, one of the things, 1497 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,640 when I'm looking at depression, anxiety, 1498 01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,600 and Franz Bonon speaks about this in his book, 1499 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,240 Black Skin, White Masks. 1500 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,240 And he speaks about the dissonance that happens 1501 01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:58,800 within Black people. 1502 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,080 And he speaks about it from how we are trying 1503 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,360 to become our whiteness. 1504 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,520 And we're trying to essentially be something that we're not. 1505 01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:07,680 And you sit in the workspace where a lot of Black people 1506 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,000 have to leave their blackness at the door, 1507 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,040 and then put their white masks 1508 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,720 when they go into a corporate space, whatever. 1509 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,560 The way they speak, the way they eat, they want. 1510 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,840 And that has created a dissonance in the Black culture. 1511 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,560 And if you look at certain cultures like the Ghanaians 1512 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,280 or the Nigerians that do business, a masalaon, 1513 01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,240 or the way that they are my takes, 1514 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,280 it feels as if they've taken who they are, their culture, 1515 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:35,280 and through that space. 1516 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,640 Into that space. 1517 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,440 And it's organically who they are. 1518 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,080 Because if you look at John O at work, 1519 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:42,880 he was playing golf on Saturday. 1520 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,520 So when he gets to work on Monday, 1521 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:45,600 you know what he's talking about? 1522 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,440 Golf. 1523 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,680 You know, John O, the way he dresses on a Saturday 1524 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,720 is how he dresses at work. 1525 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,040 He doesn't have work clothes and Saturday clothes. 1526 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,560 That's how he dresses. 1527 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,240 That's how he moves, that how he speaks. 1528 01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,680 The radio at work that stays on 947, 1529 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,120 that's what he listens in his car. 1530 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:05,020 (speaking in foreign language) 1531 01:03:05,020 --> 01:03:05,940 (speaking in foreign language) 1532 01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:09,240 You have to now put this 94, the 702 life 1533 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,360 and create a dissonance. 1534 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:11,200 And I've seen it. 1535 01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:12,680 And even if you're a religious person, 1536 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,920 and you speak about, is it the holy trinity? 1537 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:17,680 - The mother of the son, holy trinity. 1538 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,520 - The trinity. 1539 01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,320 (speaking in foreign language) 1540 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,880 It's an alliance. 1541 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,520 All of it is working together. 1542 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,920 And to me, the way that I feel it, 1543 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,160 'cause I'm not that religious, 1544 01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:31,920 I see what you think, what you talk, 1545 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,080 and how you act has to align. 1546 01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,960 And if you constantly putting on mosques 1547 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,480 and taking them off and putting them on, 1548 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:39,960 and taking them off in a space, 1549 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,760 your online persona is you being a vegan, 1550 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,160 and you're selling a vegan thing, 1551 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,040 constantly, but when you laugh, eating bacon, 1552 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,560 they'll come a time where you crash. 1553 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:49,960 Weighing ourselves. 1554 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,620 'Cause now you have to like, what, what, what, what, what, 1555 01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:53,940 what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, 1556 01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:55,400 this heck, not. 1557 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,720 And you see the time and time again, we sort of rap, 1558 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,520 where guys are trying to against them. 1559 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,160 Meanwhile, that's not who they were. 1560 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:03,320 And then you had the Kanye's come through, 1561 01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,240 and the, and the Drake's come through, 1562 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,640 where guys were being authentically who they are, 1563 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,640 and selling that, and then all of a sudden people are like, 1564 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,560 what, I can talk about heartbreak. 1565 01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:14,480 I didn't know that I can talk, 1566 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,400 I just thought I had to talk about big booty holes, 1567 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,240 and make money. 1568 01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:18,520 No, you can talk about heartbreak, bro. 1569 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:19,760 And it's okay. 1570 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,640 And it will resonate because we also go through it. 1571 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,720 All of a sudden, you see this new wave of actors 1572 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,680 and actresses, where when you meet them for the first time, 1573 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:33,400 with no cameras, you're like, you exactly who I thought you were. 1574 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,480 Juarez, when you meet Juarez off camera, 1575 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:41,280 you're like, you're exactly who I thought you were. 1576 01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,640 Like it's, it's not, oh my gosh, you're so different. 1577 01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,680 You're, when the cameras were rolling, 1578 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,080 you became this politician who started using 1579 01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:52,280 these bombastic words and moving Juarez, 1580 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,480 whether there's a cameras are on, where there's no cameras, 1581 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,800 whether it's in your DMs, where it's on a WhatsApp, 1582 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,280 where it's on the cross. 1583 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,840 He says the exact same thing in the exact same energy. 1584 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,760 And I'm like, this guy is aligned. 1585 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,440 He doesn't need to take off heads and change heads. 1586 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:10,960 This is who he actually is. 1587 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,680 Yeah, one. 1588 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,080 So he is as close to self. 1589 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:18,000 Carl Jung speaks about this when he says that there's a persona. 1590 01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,640 You know, you never meet a person's true self. 1591 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120 You meet who they project to, you know, 1592 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,640 and the aim of life is to who you project 1593 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,600 and who you think you are to be as aligned. 1594 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,400 Yes. And trick snacks on that line. 1595 01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,240 And he says, when I am who I think I am, 1596 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,760 'cause you want to create as little space 1597 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:38,560 of who you are to the world versus who you are by yourself. 1598 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,240 You know, once that aligns. 1599 01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,560 And to me, that's the whole thing about the social media thing. 1600 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,720 So if people are gonna be, this guy, 1601 01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,160 I paint my nails for real. 1602 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,600 I have a nose ring for real. 1603 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,440 Hey, I... 1604 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:52,840 - Oh, if I did, I'm afraid of it. 1605 01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,040 - Couldn't only eight people in us, they egg number. 1606 01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,040 - And you know, I'm afraid of it. 1607 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,480 - Why would we know that stuff? 1608 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,560 - What? - Me and I know depth. 1609 01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,720 - You would know. - Because we would die. 1610 01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,680 - Oh, no, no, no, no. - No, no, no. 1611 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,000 - No, but no, no, no. - No, but no, no. 1612 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,480 - I'm afraid of you. - No, no, no, no. 1613 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:05,800 - Oh, but no, no, no. - Oh, but no, no. 1614 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,000 - You're relationshiping all. 1615 01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,160 - He's wrong. - That's wrong. 1616 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:09,160 - So you would know. - I'm wrong. 1617 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:10,000 - I didn't choose him. 1618 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:10,840 You chose him. - No, no, no. 1619 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,680 - If I were a footla. - A magnet. 1620 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,680 - One. - Lume. 1621 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,680 (laughs) 1622 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,600 - Ha, ha, ha. - Ha, ha. 1623 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:29,080 - Yeah, dang it. (laughs) 1624 01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:30,680 - You're speaking from a place of privilege. 1625 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:31,520 - It is. 1626 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:32,880 (speaking in foreign language) 1627 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,920 - Look, shout out to Waters again. 1628 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,040 - Privilege in what sense? 1629 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,280 I wanna just, privilege in what sense? 1630 01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:40,440 - Shout out to Waters again. 1631 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:45,280 Waters didn't need to act to earn a living to get by. 1632 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:48,800 Unfortunately, 95% of other human beings-- 1633 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,360 - They have to. - Have no choice. 1634 01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,600 - That person can listen to (speaking in foreign language) 1635 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,120 - For example, depending on how you get paid, 1636 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,600 the space may say unfortunately the nose ring has to go. 1637 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,640 And now for you to be like, "No, I'm paying my authentic self." 1638 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,280 You must go and explain your authentic self to your kids 1639 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,480 where you can't pay school fees, and so many of us fight 1640 01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:12,120 to become ourselves or to be ourselves. 1641 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,400 Many people is at privilege. 1642 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:15,240 - What is? 1643 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,200 - Yes, it's the privilege of-- 1644 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,040 - Being your true self. 1645 01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,360 - You're not needing to act. 1646 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:23,240 - No, no, you said many of us fight to be our true selves. 1647 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:24,920 - So you spoke about trying. 1648 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,040 You said all I'm asking for is for people to try. 1649 01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:27,880 - Yes. 1650 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,320 - And I'm saying there's a lot of people who fight for that. 1651 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,400 - Yes, that fight. 1652 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,240 Is that a privilege? 1653 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,800 So I'm trying to get to. 1654 01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:34,840 - That's not what I was saying though. 1655 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,080 - No, it's a question. 1656 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:37,800 I know it's not what you're saying. 1657 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:39,320 I'm just (speaking in foreign language) 1658 01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,320 - No, the fight. 1659 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,120 - 'Cause I used to teach, and when I started teaching, 1660 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,160 I used to wear long sleeves to hide my tattoos, right? 1661 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,440 So for me, the fight was getting to a point 1662 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,600 where I started rolling up my sleeves. 1663 01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:55,880 And then everyone again being told, roll them down, 1664 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,760 and then have team around with your time, you know? 1665 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,760 And then everyone again, you roll them up, 1666 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:02,640 and then being told, roll them down. 1667 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,480 And then after a while, the fight stopped being, 1668 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,720 'cause you made it with a lot of resistance for a long time. 1669 01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:12,600 And it's a lot of heavy words. 1670 01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,360 And whatever the consequences may be, 1671 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:18,400 whether it's shame, written warning, whatever the case may be, 1672 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,200 I don't know if a lot of people fight. 1673 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,160 - But there's a school that you were teaching at 1674 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,000 allows you to have those many chances. 1675 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,360 - No, but that's a privilege. 1676 01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,360 - But no, but you don't know what the consequences, 1677 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:32,600 so the consequences are different from what they're in people. 1678 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,600 There's people that will say, 1679 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,000 "Hey, I'll never roll up my sleeve." 1680 01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:37,840 Okay? 1681 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,080 In the same exact space that I was in, 1682 01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:43,000 my deputy had tattoos, and no one knew, 1683 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,600 and he hid them, right? 1684 01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,480 In the same space, whereas me, who was a post-level one, 1685 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:51,880 I would show them, and then I get called into the office 1686 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,480 to roll down your sleeves. 1687 01:08:53,480 --> 01:08:56,760 So I'm saying, he's a more senior than me, 1688 01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:01,040 yet he's not willing to fight, and I'm willing to fight. 1689 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,040 So now when it gets to a point where he is my senior deputy, 1690 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,040 and I'm wearing a vest at school, 1691 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,040 and the headmaster is saying nothing. 1692 01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:11,520 I need to have gone to my fires, 1693 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,080 and the traits of written warnings, 1694 01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,080 and hey, this is a Christian environment, 1695 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,040 and now he's looking at himself, 1696 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,400 and I'm a full fucking senior deputy. 1697 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:21,040 I've never had the courage to fight. 1698 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,640 He can't look at me and say, "Pens, you've had a privilege." 1699 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,200 'Cause I'm like, "You don't know what--" 1700 01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:26,040 - No, I'm not. 1701 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,120 - The embarrassment, shame, 1702 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,840 what thoughts and heart conversations. 1703 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,000 - I went to the fire, though. 1704 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,880 - Yeah, but until the principal say, 1705 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,000 "Oh, the owner of the school, whoever it is," 1706 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:35,760 like, "Donna, you do this again next week, 1707 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:36,600 you're out of the school." 1708 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,080 But all I'm trying to say is 1709 01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,040 that you don't know the spaces that have been in. 1710 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,720 - But I'm saying you don't know the opportunities 1711 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:42,560 through that point. 1712 01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,680 - No, I've had many opportunities that I've lost, 1713 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:46,800 many, many opportunities. 1714 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,640 - Yeah, not for sure. 1715 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,040 - Some financial opportunities 1716 01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,280 that affect my kids directly. 1717 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,120 - Yeah. 1718 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,480 - Clearly because I am me. 1719 01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:57,560 I've had opportunities where people talk shit, 1720 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:58,840 because he is he. 1721 01:09:58,840 --> 01:09:59,680 - Sure, sure. 1722 01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,000 - Look at us, look at us, 1723 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,240 anything to do with me. 1724 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,080 - Sure. 1725 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:04,720 - But just because he is he, 1726 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,160 and he is being authentically him, 1727 01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:11,440 it affected my financial situation. 1728 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:12,280 You see what I'm trying to say? 1729 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,840 - So now people turn back and say, "I'm privileged." 1730 01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:16,840 - No, it is a privilege. 1731 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,680 - This campaign, this campaign, this campaign. 1732 01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,720 - No, until you get to a point where 1733 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:28,120 you truly can't have food on the table for your kids. 1734 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,280 - But that's why I know. 1735 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:30,120 - Perfected. 1736 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:30,960 - Yes. 1737 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:31,800 - I lift education. 1738 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,400 - The fact that you can pivot is a privilege. 1739 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,240 - Fine. 1740 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:36,060 - Yes. 1741 01:10:36,060 --> 01:10:38,520 - I'm not disagreeing with certain privileges. 1742 01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,960 I'm saying, people don't know when I left TJ 1743 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:45,560 to when I got a job in media, there was time. 1744 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,800 It wasn't like, today you work as a TJ, 1745 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:48,640 the trick is already-- 1746 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,640 - What's for them, the privilege? 1747 01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,960 - The fact that the privilege comes hits my ear 1748 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:54,720 as if I didn't go through fire. 1749 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:55,640 - You did go through fire, 1750 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:57,920 but the fact that I know a lot of people. 1751 01:10:57,920 --> 01:10:58,760 - Yeah. 1752 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,960 - When you put the privilege of you can articulate. 1753 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:02,800 - Yeah, no. 1754 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:04,320 - That's a serious privilege that day. 1755 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,160 - Okay. 1756 01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:05,980 - A serious one. 1757 01:11:05,980 --> 01:11:06,820 - Was I wrong with it or did I wrong with it? 1758 01:11:06,820 --> 01:11:07,660 - No, no, no, no. 1759 01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:08,500 Whether one would do it, 1760 01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:09,320 but I'm saying you have it now. 1761 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:10,320 - Okay, perfect. 1762 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,160 - Okay, perfect. 1763 01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,440 - You can almost jump between naive and naive. 1764 01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,000 Because you still have that thing. 1765 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,280 And many other things. 1766 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,800 I just mentioned one thing. 1767 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,420 I know a lot of people will tell you, 1768 01:11:19,420 --> 01:11:23,100 (speaking in foreign language) 1769 01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:26,040 and I'm like, you're enough the right to leave the job. 1770 01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,520 You need to stay in the job. 1771 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,920 You're enough the privilege to jump between Ybani. 1772 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:31,760 - Why? 1773 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,560 - Your convocation, shit. 1774 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:34,600 - And you can come and see. 1775 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,400 - I went to media with no qualification. 1776 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:37,400 - Yeah, no, no, for sure. 1777 01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,220 But some people, 1778 01:11:38,220 --> 01:11:39,200 I'm saying it's many things. 1779 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,080 Qualification is one of them. 1780 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:42,200 Atticulation is one of them. 1781 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,720 And just some of them is that, 1782 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:44,560 you can think, man, 1783 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,520 you know, you're just a pecker. 1784 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,060 You need someone to tell you, 1785 01:11:47,060 --> 01:11:49,640 (speaking in foreign language) 1786 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:50,760 you are just that type of person. 1787 01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:52,320 You have no right, (speaking in foreign language) 1788 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:53,680 this space is toxic. 1789 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,400 No, you need to stay in that job. 1790 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,720 Because Ybani, you do have certain privileges 1791 01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,600 that other people may not have. 1792 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,400 So the advice that we give people 1793 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,000 couldn't be a blanket statement. 1794 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:04,840 - No, it's not. 1795 01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:05,760 - I just want to unpack privilege 1796 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,640 because Luna was asking me what's wrong privilege. 1797 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:08,480 - Yeah. 1798 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:09,800 - I have many privileges, guys. 1799 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,640 - Sure. 1800 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,680 - I want to be very clear with that, many privileges. 1801 01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,240 But I believe there's these privileges that are unearned 1802 01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:16,080 that I have. 1803 01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,680 I've got many unearned privileges. 1804 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:19,520 But I also have earned privileges. 1805 01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:20,360 So if someone says, 1806 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,000 "Ah, places because you've got all these muscles," 1807 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,560 that's earned privilege. 1808 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:24,400 - Yeah. 1809 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:25,240 - Wasn't born looking like this. 1810 01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:26,560 It's an earned privilege. 1811 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,000 So for me to pivot from where I was to where I am, 1812 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,520 that's an earned privilege. 1813 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,840 If someone says, "Ah, because your hair looks like this," 1814 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:35,640 that's unearned and I get that. 1815 01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:36,480 - Sure. 1816 01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:37,400 - So I just want to make that distinction 1817 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,080 with certain privileges. 1818 01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:39,920 - Sure. 1819 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,280 - Because I've had backlash on a nose ring, 1820 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,520 on nails, on tattoos, on me using certain language. 1821 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:50,160 I've lost money, business, real money. 1822 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,240 Like money that I could have paid school fees, 1823 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,800 bought groceries because of how I speak on platforms. 1824 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,280 Because of how you guys speak on platforms 1825 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,640 have lost certain things. 1826 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,880 - I don't know, I mean, I, I. 1827 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,960 - So, but, but again, 1828 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:07,640 so someone say, "Ah, but you've got the privilege 1829 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,520 of having with Devza with trouble. 1830 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,760 You've got the privilege of everybody." 1831 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:14,200 I say, "Yes, those are unearned privileges 1832 01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:15,400 of being in the space." 1833 01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,800 But there's also certain privileges where it's earned. 1834 01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,600 So when you're saying what you can articulate, 1835 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:20,800 that's earned. 1836 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,360 (speaking in foreign language) 1837 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:24,840 You know, namng fun deed. 1838 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:26,720 Having Devza in my life, 1839 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:28,480 that's unearned and it's a privilege. 1840 01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,080 So I just want to just make those distinctions 1841 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:30,920 in my privileges. 1842 01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,280 - Yeah, yeah. 1843 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,760 I, I won't count to you. 1844 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,800 I want to, I've got a lot to count on it. 1845 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,360 I'll just, I'll just give it a, don't forget your third point. 1846 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,200 - I've forgotten it, but I'll, I'll, I'll speak to something 1847 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,440 that's more important, which I've said to Penn, 1848 01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:47,600 and I think it's improved, but it's still a problem. 1849 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,880 You and many others need to learn, 1850 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,920 and it's very difficult. 1851 01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,640 - So, I think it's a good idea. 1852 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,120 - Yeah, I think it's a good idea. 1853 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:59,200 And it's very difficult to switch off 1854 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:02,320 from certain content and comments online, 1855 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:03,800 because they will miss you up. 1856 01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,320 - You 100% right. 1857 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:06,480 (laughing) 1858 01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:10,480 (speaking in foreign language) 1859 01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:21,600 - So the human mind is created for me. 1860 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,040 (speaking in foreign language) 1861 01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:28,880 (speaking in foreign language) 1862 01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:40,520 - You know, you know, I really don't understand 1863 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:42,280 what you came from being mean, 1864 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,000 like what you're saying, (speaking in foreign language) 1865 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,640 (speaking in foreign language) 1866 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:49,640 Why don't you just keep quiet? 1867 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,640 What do you gain? 1868 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,200 (speaking in foreign language) 1869 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,200 - Someone's mother. 1870 01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:59,040 (speaking in foreign language) 1871 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:03,200 (speaking in foreign language) 1872 01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,800 - So, that person, let's say we're talking about 1873 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:06,640 the color black. 1874 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,720 - There's some things between the color black. 1875 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,120 - We say it's the best thing. 1876 01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,960 - Yeah. 1877 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:12,320 - That person, whoever's about to comment, 1878 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:13,400 he hates the color black. 1879 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:15,360 Who wants, might also agree with that 1880 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,600 the person is commenting. 1881 01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:17,600 So the person is saying, 1882 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,960 (speaking in foreign language) 1883 01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:21,960 - He has these guys in the color black. 1884 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:25,800 (speaking in foreign language) 1885 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:26,800 - What about me? 1886 01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:27,800 - No, no, no, no. 1887 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,720 (speaking in foreign language) 1888 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,720 - For me. 1889 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:32,560 - Don't. 1890 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:33,400 - It's important. 1891 01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:34,240 - Maybe it's pain. 1892 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,080 I don't understand that. 1893 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,360 - Do you really want to know? 1894 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,960 - Yeah, no, I really want to. 1895 01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:39,800 - But I'm just saying that-- 1896 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,880 - There's a certain chat we're having today where-- 1897 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:41,720 - Do you like something? 1898 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:42,560 - They're too obvious. 1899 01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:43,400 - No, it's not obvious. 1900 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,240 It just feels like-- 1901 01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:45,760 - You wanna, you're nice. 1902 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:46,960 - I'm good, thank you. 1903 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:47,960 - No, no, no, I just-- 1904 01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,360 - There's certain topics that we're having today 1905 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,280 where I'm struggling to understand you guys 1906 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,440 because you're still fixated in your viewpoint. 1907 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:56,400 - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1908 01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,720 - I genuinely don't think-- 1909 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,560 - May the men not-- 1910 01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,280 - I genuinely don't think you guys are actually willing 1911 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,000 to listen to another perspective. 1912 01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,280 - No, no, I'm willing to listen to it. 1913 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,120 - No, I'm in. 1914 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,720 - I'm willing to listen to a perspective. 1915 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:08,560 - No, I'm willing-- 1916 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:09,400 - I'm willing to think badly. 1917 01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,240 - No, I'm willing-- 1918 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,040 - A person's mom who has nothing. 1919 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,160 - Do they know your mother? 1920 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,000 - No, no, no, no. 1921 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,040 - Then why would you get touched? 1922 01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,000 - But you know what they say about mom? 1923 01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:18,840 - Does it matter? 1924 01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,760 - Yes, it does. 1925 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,120 - Why? 1926 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:21,960 - Why are you talking about mom? 1927 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,240 - Oh, that friend doesn't open up on social media is enough. 1928 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:26,160 I want to hear your view. 1929 01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:27,640 I want to hear your view, forget them look. 1930 01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:28,480 I want to hear your view. 1931 01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:29,560 - But you're making detail of mom, 1932 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,480 you're just saying things that are painful 1933 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,800 and have to do with a mother. 1934 01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,240 - So one of the benefits, by the way, 1935 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:37,680 is how is reacting now? 1936 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,680 So the people who do this thing, 1937 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,520 they're like, "Oh my gosh, I got him." 1938 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:44,360 - So-- 1939 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:45,640 - I was still trying to say 1940 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,760 that friends need to learn this, 1941 01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:47,640 and it's not the only one, 1942 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,120 'cause this stuff leads to real harm, 1943 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:53,880 and people do take each other out for online, 1944 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,200 things that were said, that triggered them. 1945 01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,440 Even if those things, 1946 01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:02,680 I don't know if you were just saying whatever they were saying. 1947 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,960 So, what happens once, 1948 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,480 and the algorithms are designed for this, 1949 01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:10,960 because they know what triggers you emotionally. 1950 01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:11,920 - Cuffer. 1951 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:13,680 - Yeah, so they, 1952 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,000 when you don't muskle feed you, 1953 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:16,400 I tend not to bother. 1954 01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,360 - You don't muskle feed you as much 1955 01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:21,000 of a free forum content, 1956 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:22,200 because that's when you comment 1957 01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,720 and get angry and make videos. 1958 01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,840 And the sad thing, 1959 01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,200 I said this earlier, that you'll be isolated 1960 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,240 for one slap, no one cares about the wrist. 1961 01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:40,520 I think it was psychologically programmed. 1962 01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:43,560 We'll read 30 amazing comments, 1963 01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:46,160 and for some reason, the one negative one sticks out. 1964 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,680 - One, and one. 1965 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,560 - And that negative one is the one that works. 1966 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:51,600 - I hold on to it. 1967 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,440 - 'Cause that's the one 1968 01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:54,080 that actually keeps you on the platform. 1969 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,800 I want to think pins and saw, 1970 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,360 other people saw, other people watch, 1971 01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,200 many of the people that watch will actually be angry. 1972 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,320 How dare this person say this? 1973 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,120 The nice tributes, 1974 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:06,200 they won't watch that. 1975 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,680 That's boring. 1976 01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,880 Now, what happens with social media for some people is, 1977 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,840 a lot of people don't have a life. 1978 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:13,680 - They say. 1979 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:15,360 - They don't have relevance, they don't have purpose, 1980 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:16,840 they know bodies. 1981 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,280 - Yeah, and we had to my player here, 1982 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:23,280 who once tweeted, Twitter/socialmedia became powerful. 1983 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:28,880 When nobody's figured out 1984 01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,000 that they can punch a popular person and get a reaction. 1985 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:37,680 So, when you feed the negative, they win. 1986 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:41,560 And the more they do it, the more you're feeding them. 1987 01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,880 And then it becomes Chris Excel. 1988 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:44,840 I don't know what he's like now, 1989 01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,320 but I will slick talk at some point. 1990 01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,360 Even Apple Macci and some of their negative comments. 1991 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:50,480 I mean, today, if you were to ask, 1992 01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:52,960 what are the top five things you know about Macci? 1993 01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:54,880 I can tell that one of them probably has something 1994 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,120 to do with a negative thing instead of someone. 1995 01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:58,880 Because that's the stuff that sticks. 1996 01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:00,560 - I want to say something. 1997 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,280 You just, I've been thinking about it. 1998 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:03,120 - I want to stick talk. 1999 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,240 The most beautiful thing is the fact 2000 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:05,760 that Ooh, Casper I'm shy. 2001 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,080 - Meena, ooh, ooh. 2002 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,920 - And you spoke about it. 2003 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:09,760 - So that was a benefit. 2004 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,480 He eventually caught Casper's attention. 2005 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,960 - Got into a fight, got paid. 2006 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,800 So why would you not, why would I not show you? 2007 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:18,640 - Meena, I don't think so. 2008 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,560 I don't think so. 2009 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,400 - I don't think so. 2010 01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:21,240 - That means he won. 2011 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,680 - Especially if the fight has money. 2012 01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:23,520 - Meena, I don't think so. 2013 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:24,880 - I don't think so. 2014 01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,080 - Then he won't be there again. 2015 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:26,920 - No money. 2016 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,680 - So he has power over him. 2017 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,600 - Wait a minute, I'm shy. 2018 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,440 - Yes. 2019 01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:31,280 - Yes. 2020 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,960 - To affect your state or something. 2021 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:36,120 - Oh no, if I, no, no, no, no, no. 2022 01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,800 - The person who said what they said clearly upset you. 2023 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,360 No, there's many people. 2024 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:43,400 - So specifically the example that you made. 2025 01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,680 - Yes, that person's comments with me. 2026 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,560 - That is power over you. 2027 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:48,400 Do you acknowledge that? 2028 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:49,720 Yes or no? 2029 01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,840 - Yes and no. 2030 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,400 - They literally are affecting your state of being. 2031 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:55,240 - Yes, yes. 2032 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:56,480 - They are distracting your peace. 2033 01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:58,680 - Yeah, but I, I, so, I still get. 2034 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,680 (speaks in foreign language) 2035 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,120 (speaks in foreign language) 2036 01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,360 - Yeah, yes, that is correct. 2037 01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,160 That's why it makes so much money. 2038 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:11,340 (speaks in foreign language) 2039 01:20:11,340 --> 01:20:14,280 - Yes, if someone falls, it has an impact. 2040 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,120 (speaks in foreign language) 2041 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,960 - It depends on what the impact leads to. 2042 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,720 - It depends on what the impact leads to. 2043 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,200 (speaks in foreign language) 2044 01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:27,720 - Imagine if the impact leads to you 2045 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,800 having a bad day, getting angry. 2046 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:30,640 - Oh, no. 2047 01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,480 - One in two. 2048 01:20:31,480 --> 01:20:32,300 - Oh, no. 2049 01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:33,140 - One in two. 2050 01:20:33,140 --> 01:20:33,960 - Oh, no. 2051 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,800 - Someone's email address. 2052 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:35,640 - No, what are you saying? 2053 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:36,480 - They have power. 2054 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:39,160 (speaks in foreign language) 2055 01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,400 - So, he's gaining the level of emotion. 2056 01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,560 - I don't care about his scaling. 2057 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,040 I need him to acknowledge that he's giving someone else power. 2058 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,960 - He said yes, but no, but you didn't. 2059 01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,240 - I don't need the levels. 2060 01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,800 - Oh, but you said, but it's a level. 2061 01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:51,800 - So that's a level. 2062 01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,400 - Spore my game. 2063 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,320 - It is spoil your day 2064 01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,960 if you're raising it in a context like this. 2065 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,460 - Yeah, but it's at the top end of this. 2066 01:20:57,460 --> 01:21:00,040 - The person who said something about it is mother 2067 01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,720 affected him to a point where he's still chowing him now. 2068 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,640 - No, that's, that missed me. 2069 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,440 - I'm trying to-- - But this guy also, 2070 01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:08,400 because it's a topic, we're thinking about work. 2071 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:09,560 - It doesn't matter. 2072 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,000 - No, but it upsets you. 2073 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,400 - Yes, let's say we're talking about shoes. 2074 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,520 - You're upset by me saying day, like 24 hours. 2075 01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:18,800 I'm just saying it ruined your mood. 2076 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:19,640 - Yeah, that's how we are. 2077 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,780 - We don't have to be technical about this. 2078 01:21:21,780 --> 01:21:23,280 - No, okay, young day. 2079 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,640 - Yes, there's things that are power. 2080 01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:25,480 - That's what I'm saying. 2081 01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:26,480 - And I said everything as power. 2082 01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:30,120 - My point is, my point is you and other people 2083 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,360 are going to need to learn to regulate. 2084 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,800 Otherwise, the platform and its algorithm 2085 01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:41,080 will keep feeding you the stuff that it will deteriorate your mind. 2086 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:42,560 - And I think that's what gets to me. 2087 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,200 Because my, my algorithms are so beautiful 2088 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,880 that when there's a little turdie, it's so huge. 2089 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,600 (laughing) 2090 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,640 It's all you gotta get on my day. 2091 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,360 Because my whole thing is having like little kids 2092 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,040 doing little dances and saying the most cute things 2093 01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,520 and bears and is that cooking show that we watch 2094 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,880 with the downsy brothers, the ones that down syndrome. 2095 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,960 My whole algorithm is social media. 2096 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,040 It's just me laughing and it's amazing time. 2097 01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:09,880 - Long time. 2098 01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:10,720 - I'm showing Netflix. 2099 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:11,560 - No, there's one. 2100 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:12,380 - There's one. 2101 01:22:12,380 --> 01:22:14,120 - Even if you watch "Shilla Woman". 2102 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,200 - Oh my gosh. 2103 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:17,040 - Run with these boys on Instagram. 2104 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,680 I don't know, he likes every video, every video. 2105 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:21,520 And he cook and he goes. 2106 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,680 - Why are you lying? 2107 01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:23,520 - I can. 2108 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,040 - You can exaggerate and lie about yourself. 2109 01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:25,880 - I'm gonna fart. 2110 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:26,720 - I'm gonna see. 2111 01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:27,760 - You love shows about down syndrome. 2112 01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:28,600 - No. 2113 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:29,680 - I like every video. 2114 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:30,660 - That's not true. 2115 01:22:30,660 --> 01:22:31,500 - Most videos. 2116 01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:33,360 - So he must say he loves most videos. 2117 01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,680 He likes most videos. 2118 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:35,760 - So he loves most videos. 2119 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,280 - So it's so wholesome, because you watching them 2120 01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:40,760 like getting stuck in. 2121 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:41,600 - Yeah. 2122 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:42,440 - It's not wholesome. 2123 01:22:42,440 --> 01:22:43,280 It's not wholesome. 2124 01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:47,400 So that channel, which I won't mention now, 2125 01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,440 and the context is raising it is actually wrong 2126 01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:52,720 'cause we're actually laughing and this is wrong. 2127 01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:54,320 - We're laughing at the fact that they've down syndrome. 2128 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:55,920 - No, chief. 2129 01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:56,920 - He can lie all he wants. 2130 01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:57,760 But that's what he is. 2131 01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:58,600 So it's a bad riff. 2132 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,760 - Well, I laugh at people with special needs all the time. 2133 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,400 And my algorithm feeds me enough stimulation 2134 01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:05,280 to laugh at special needs. 2135 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,120 - It's wrong. 2136 01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:06,960 - Okay. 2137 01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:07,880 - And I'm wrong for that. 2138 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:11,200 - That specific channel, I think it's cute for me. 2139 01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,080 - It is cute, but it's also because they have down syndrome. 2140 01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:15,160 If they didn't, they wouldn't. 2141 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,000 - Oh, okay. 2142 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,080 - Yeah, but it's like watching like a woman doing maths. 2143 01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:18,920 It's cute. 2144 01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,520 - No, it's not like maths. 2145 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,080 - Oh, it's like a white person. 2146 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:22,920 - Like a white person. 2147 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,440 - I think a woman doing maths is like a down syndrome cooking. 2148 01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:26,280 - The down syndrome. 2149 01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:28,720 - How do you live? 2150 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:29,560 - I'm sorry, I'll take that. 2151 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:30,400 - I know it's wrong. 2152 01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:31,240 - It was okay. 2153 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,560 But I think that for me, I think it's cute 2154 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,360 because I know they've got special needs 2155 01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,480 and they are, in my opinion, punching above their weight. 2156 01:23:38,480 --> 01:23:40,440 So it motivates me because some of the things 2157 01:23:40,440 --> 01:23:41,280 that they do... 2158 01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:42,280 - Doesn't want to finish you. 2159 01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:43,520 - I think it's lying. 2160 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,360 Can I say why? 2161 01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:45,800 I'm talking about this specific channel. 2162 01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:47,560 I've got enough channels with special needs. 2163 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:48,760 People that I love it. 2164 01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:50,840 And that's going to get me into hell. 2165 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,200 There's enough that I'm like, oh, here I'm going to, 2166 01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,520 I'm going to hell for this. 2167 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,480 And I've got more than enough that I'll get put. 2168 01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:01,040 Because I'll watch and I'm like, I can't make that. 2169 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,440 There's certain things where I'm like, you know, 2170 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:04,800 with that channel. 2171 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:05,800 - That's not where I watch the channel. 2172 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,040 - I like he, he's a connoisseur. 2173 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:08,200 He sends me reals. 2174 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,200 - That's not where I watch the channel. 2175 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,040 - That's why he's watching the channel. 2176 01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,240 - He sends me, I don't watch it like that. 2177 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,480 - I don't, I don't, I don't photo the channel. 2178 01:24:14,480 --> 01:24:15,320 - No, I don't. 2179 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:16,160 - Why? 2180 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,000 - I don't know, I don't know. 2181 01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,320 - Ask him if he's watching the channel. 2182 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:19,200 - Ask him if he's watching the channel. 2183 01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,040 - He's trying to help him. 2184 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:20,880 - I'm not. 2185 01:24:20,880 --> 01:24:25,920 - I don't watch, I don't follow the channel. 2186 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,080 Someone follows the channel. 2187 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:27,920 - And he sends you. 2188 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,280 - Someone, I don't follow the channel. 2189 01:24:29,280 --> 01:24:31,000 We can check, we've got our phones in. 2190 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,120 I don't follow the channel. 2191 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:33,360 Someone follows the channel. 2192 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:34,200 I won't name them. 2193 01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:35,040 'Cause it's there. 2194 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,080 They're one of the people's personal life 2195 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:36,920 as they're online. 2196 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:37,760 - I follow the channel. 2197 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,840 - And then someone who follows the channel 2198 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:43,000 sends me specific reals 2199 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,960 that are going to get me into hell. 2200 01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,040 I've got to say who it is because online person 2201 01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:50,960 has personal life, but they send me game reals, bro. 2202 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,520 Why? 2203 01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:54,440 Why? 2204 01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:55,280 - Because they're not. 2205 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:56,480 - Or they're with a straight face emoji. 2206 01:24:56,480 --> 01:24:58,160 Says they're real and in this emoji. 2207 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,680 And I'm like, chief. 2208 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:01,560 Look at how much that shit. 2209 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,000 - Do you lie when you've been drinking? 2210 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,560 - Can I have my phone? 2211 01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,400 Can I show you? 2212 01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,400 - Ah, what is that? 2213 01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:07,440 I'm dumb about it. 2214 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:09,640 - No, no, he's, he's like poker face. 2215 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:10,560 Ask him to show you. 2216 01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:11,640 - Yeah, I'm cold. 2217 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:12,480 - Yeah. 2218 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:13,880 - Ask him to show you the straight face emoji. 2219 01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:14,720 - I'm going. 2220 01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:16,320 - I'm going there, I'm going there. 2221 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:17,640 - Because I'm tired of this guy. 2222 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,480 - I'm not my chance. 2223 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:19,320 He played for me. 2224 01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,000 I'm, yeah, I'm tired of this guy. 2225 01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:21,960 - You guys should have warned me. 2226 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:23,040 I didn't know. 2227 01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,840 I'm tired of this guy. 2228 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:25,960 This guy, I'm tired of this guy. 2229 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:26,800 - Dougie, what are you doing? 2230 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,640 - I'm tired of this guy. 2231 01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:32,200 - You're happy with what you said about work? 2232 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,880 Yeah, I mean, the father would think touch me, man. 2233 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:36,520 - I use man out of everything. 2234 01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,840 - Let me, let me speak about that quickly and look, 2235 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:46,000 I tried to be strong during the memorial service, 2236 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,080 but the time when I broke and my eyes started watering, 2237 01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:52,760 was when I was listening to his eldest son speak. 2238 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,120 For many reasons. 2239 01:25:55,120 --> 01:26:00,120 I watched the boy on the screen throughout 2240 01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:01,520 and you know, he was listening to the people 2241 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,080 and he was smiling and when they'd say something funny, 2242 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,560 I thought that was really dope. 2243 01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:12,160 Warwick loved his boys loudly online. 2244 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,560 Everyone knew he spoke about them. 2245 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,920 - These are some of the things. - Point one. 2246 01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:18,920 - I don't know if I look at that face. 2247 01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:20,160 - Shop, it's a good thing. 2248 01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:21,800 - I just point one. 2249 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:23,360 - That's a first tick. 2250 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,200 - Shop. 2251 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:25,040 - Okay. 2252 01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:26,760 - These are some of the things 2253 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,680 that me and Anna Pinson have tried to do, 2254 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,320 loving our children out loudly. 2255 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:35,880 Number one, for ourselves, because we love our kids. 2256 01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:38,800 Number two, for the kids to know that their fathers 2257 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:42,480 really love them and we're happy to show the whole world 2258 01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:43,560 how much we love them. 2259 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,400 Number three, to hopefully inspire other kids to do, 2260 01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:51,040 especially in a country where there's a narrative 2261 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,680 that fathers are not present, 2262 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,640 fathers are not doing their thing and it's been difficult 2263 01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:58,720 for me specifically because 2264 01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:04,000 Juarez was a huge celebrity. 2265 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,000 - You just look at what you think. 2266 01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:07,520 - I don't wanna, just say something. 2267 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:08,840 All right, listen to that stuff. 2268 01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:13,840 - Juarez was a huge celebrity, TV, radio, music. 2269 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,000 And then he went into business 2270 01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,400 and then it's the last two years, if I'm not sure, 2271 01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,240 where he now came back into the limelight. 2272 01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:24,840 I mean, it was funny about coming onto the podcast 2273 01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:25,940 for me at some point, 'cause like, 2274 01:27:25,940 --> 01:27:28,000 "Hey, my name is this a thing," I thought. 2275 01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:28,880 But then he came back. 2276 01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:29,960 - It's so deep confessed. 2277 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:31,040 - And he loved it. 2278 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,600 - He confessed that it's ballet. 2279 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,440 - Hey. 2280 01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:34,920 - My podcast is big net. 2281 01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:36,080 - It gave him that-- 2282 01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,520 - But when it came here, 2283 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:38,840 - Oh, the shady podcast. 2284 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:39,920 - He's like, "Bali." 2285 01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:41,720 - He's like, "Yeah, I knew." 2286 01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,900 - So-- - It gave him that humor. 2287 01:27:43,900 --> 01:27:48,040 - So, Juarez had rebranded himself as a celebrity. 2288 01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,160 He was now a podcaster, and not only a podcaster, 2289 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,560 but a political and social activist. 2290 01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:55,160 - Yes. - All right. 2291 01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:56,800 He was working in security. 2292 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,520 So a very, very tough industry. 2293 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:01,880 - Dangerous. - Dangerous industry. 2294 01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:06,880 And in that, number one, he'd been famous, 2295 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,160 but to be famous again in a dangerous industry 2296 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:14,680 with your kids, I started getting worried 2297 01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,320 because the little bit of taste that I'd gotten was, 2298 01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:19,240 this thing depends on saying, 2299 01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,200 so the mentioning of the mom. 2300 01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,120 In my case, I've had people speak about my kids negatively, 2301 01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:25,960 right? 2302 01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:27,040 They don't know my kids. 2303 01:28:27,040 --> 01:28:29,680 So I know it's not because they know them. 2304 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,600 It's because they try to provoke me. 2305 01:28:32,600 --> 01:28:34,840 They wanna get something, right? 2306 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,440 We live in a world with dark people, 2307 01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:42,680 people with no purpose, stupid people. 2308 01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,880 And it took me two, three years to make the call, 2309 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:48,240 to stop posting my kids, 2310 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,640 and as far as possible to stop even speaking about them, 2311 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,360 because they didn't choose to be in the spotlight, 2312 01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,280 because the type of brand I have, 2313 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,400 there are people that don't like me. 2314 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,320 I'm not Jay-something. 2315 01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:02,560 I'm not Trevor Noah, I'm not Kevin Hart. 2316 01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,880 We get reference, now go and rotate. 2317 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,600 And some of these other guys that some people really don't like. 2318 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:16,640 Maybe even politicians can be mentioned in that WhatsApp group. 2319 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:20,400 So I realize how important it is to do that. 2320 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,880 What happens when you make that decision is you now, 2321 01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,240 those three things that I mentioned, 2322 01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:30,320 me for myself wanting to love my kids publicly, I can't. 2323 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,880 So online wins. 2324 01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,160 I can't now love my kids publicly. 2325 01:29:36,160 --> 01:29:38,960 Number two, my kids can't see me loving them publicly, 2326 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,600 wherever they may be. 2327 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:41,800 So that when people meet them, 2328 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,080 which is what would happen to us, 2329 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:45,440 everyone including myself would be like, 2330 01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:46,960 "You're dead, love you." 2331 01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,280 How do they know that? 2332 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,160 Cause he used to post them, he used to talk about them. 2333 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:52,800 I don't post my kids, I don't speak about them, 2334 01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,120 so it's almost like I don't love them. 2335 01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:57,120 Of course my kids know, cause I'm with them, 2336 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,000 which is actually most important. 2337 01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,520 That's most important. 2338 01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,480 But I can't do that now to the world. 2339 01:30:03,480 --> 01:30:04,920 And then the last one being, 2340 01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:07,400 I can't inspire other chance now to do the same. 2341 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,640 And I almost become a statistic. 2342 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:10,480 - But can I jump in? 2343 01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:14,200 - To be like, where are your kids, why are you? 2344 01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,480 And that really hurt me. 2345 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:21,400 It became pretty sweet watching that moment. 2346 01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,640 To be like, yeah, this is upsetting, 2347 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,520 specifically because you're speaking about, 2348 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,520 seeing what us live like that, 2349 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,640 did something to where I know in the past, 2350 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,800 people seeing me with my kids, even knowing their names, 2351 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,680 even bumping into me and my kids and knowing their names. 2352 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:41,840 There was such a beautiful thing, 2353 01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,600 which I'd get DMs of guys saying, 2354 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,640 "Hey, it's the way you love your kids." 2355 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,320 And unfortunately, because of my brand, 2356 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,240 and being online, that's been taken away from me. 2357 01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:54,040 And that hurts, because I kind of now moving forward people 2358 01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:57,160 that can talk like you'd speak about us. 2359 01:30:57,160 --> 01:30:58,520 - So, just to jump in. 2360 01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,720 So, I post my kids all the time, 2361 01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:02,520 and I've realized that the majority of people 2362 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:05,240 that are positive-- - I think you must have stopped it. 2363 01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,160 - But just you may have to. 2364 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,120 The majority of people that are positive towards me, 2365 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,320 love my kids. 2366 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,320 I've learned that if people hate you, 2367 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,160 they'll find your kids. 2368 01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:19,720 And I've seen that many, many times. 2369 01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:23,400 I've seen that with, let's say, a Chris Excel. 2370 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,160 Chris Excel was posting someone else's picture, 2371 01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:28,680 he wasn't posting himself. 2372 01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,320 People that were aggressive and didn't like him 2373 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,600 found his face. 2374 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,560 They found where he lived. 2375 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,240 People will do that if they want a problem. 2376 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:39,560 So, they'll say-- - And they post it. 2377 01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,080 - Yeah, they post it even more times. 2378 01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:46,080 So, if you've got a problem with me or my kids or whatever, 2379 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,320 the TikTok, we did a TikTok one time, 2380 01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,600 and I go in that video, 2381 01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:53,320 the one that we did was a TikTok, 2382 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,360 and you write the pencils go for it. 2383 01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,600 And it was a trending thing, whose pencils go for it. 2384 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,800 And you go in the, she was ghost. 2385 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,040 She was ghost, she didn't say her name, 2386 01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:04,000 no one said her name. 2387 01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,720 But now, on the TikTok, the first search is pencils go, 2388 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,280 now you click and it went to my page. 2389 01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:09,840 And on my page on TikTok, 2390 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:12,760 there's, no, I get a call. 2391 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,480 I get a call on the TikTok. 2392 01:32:14,480 --> 01:32:15,960 I get a call on her. 2393 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,120 I get a call on her. 2394 01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,960 But in the comments around that, 2395 01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,840 they were like, go to his Instagram, you'll see her. 2396 01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,200 And then all of a sudden, 2397 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,240 people now on that thing were saying her name and surname. 2398 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:30,840 So it went from convo to pencents personal thing, 2399 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:31,800 from pencents presenting, 2400 01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:33,080 they were saying name and surname, 2401 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:35,000 and they were saying you can find on Instagram. 2402 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,080 So I'm saying what's, for those that don't like you, 2403 01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,560 the higher up you climb, 2404 01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:43,800 they will know your, if they hate you, 2405 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,400 if they just like, they'll find your kids, bro. 2406 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:51,000 So for me, I'm like 99% of the people that I interact with 2407 01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:54,600 love me and love my kids, 99. 2408 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:58,480 And the 1% that don't would find them either way. 2409 01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,680 The same way that people know my lemurs kids, 2410 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,400 was them was kids. 2411 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,600 Longer those kids that he now is not posting, 2412 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:06,880 they'll find them. 2413 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,360 Your mom, the ones that don't like you, 2414 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:10,880 you see the ones that don't like you? 2415 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,520 The ones that they hate you. 2416 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:14,120 Whether you post them or not, 2417 01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,560 'cause when they posting your kids, 2418 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,240 you're not posting the pictures that you posted on Instagram. 2419 01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,080 They want to find exclusive pictures. 2420 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:25,480 They want to find, even the pictures that they post of you, 2421 01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:27,280 it's not the pictures that you post on Instagram. 2422 01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,080 But they'll find a picture where a couple of my friends, 2423 01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,760 so (speaks in foreign language) 2424 01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,280 The pictures that they post about, 2425 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:35,320 the pictures that I've always seen on Twitter 2426 01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:36,400 or in these places, 2427 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:39,640 the ones that people say the harshest things about me, 2428 01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,080 I don't even know where they find them, 2429 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,560 because I'm not posting those motherfuckers. 2430 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,360 But (speaks in foreign language) 2431 01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,520 they'll make sure they will find things about you. 2432 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,640 (speaks in foreign language) 2433 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,040 - We'll never agree on this point. 2434 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:53,920 - That's okay. 2435 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,440 - Do you still want to continue to post on that? 2436 01:33:56,440 --> 01:33:58,200 (speaks in foreign language) 2437 01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:59,040 - On your side. 2438 01:33:59,040 --> 01:33:59,860 - He wants to, which is why he's explaining 2439 01:33:59,860 --> 01:34:01,400 what he's explaining to your kids. 2440 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:02,240 - No, no, no. 2441 01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,320 - So I can't agree to the soul anymore. 2442 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,600 - So again, we also need to also get to our points 2443 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,520 where one, we acknowledge that we're different. 2444 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:11,360 - Yes, sure. 2445 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:12,520 - We're pairing differently, 2446 01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:13,840 and the conversation that we have 2447 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,600 with our kids is also very different. 2448 01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:16,440 - Sure, sure. 2449 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:21,280 - So I posted, my kids had a TikTok. 2450 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:23,680 There was a situation, and we took them off, 2451 01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:25,080 and now they come to them and they say, 2452 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,160 they want a TikTok game, so we read that one. 2453 01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:28,360 - Because they say so. 2454 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:29,360 - Yeah, because they say so. 2455 01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,640 - Yeah, yeah, they asked. 2456 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:31,820 - You didn't want them. 2457 01:34:31,820 --> 01:34:35,360 When I schooled them. 2458 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,600 - Who decided to, to me? 2459 01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:38,920 - You, not their mom. 2460 01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:39,760 - Me, me, me. 2461 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:40,920 - Not their mom, not their mom. 2462 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:41,760 - Okay. 2463 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:46,320 - Me, and them reposting was them having 2464 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,840 a conversation of, "Please, can we?" 2465 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,760 So why did you stop? 2466 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,160 - There was a situation where this lady 2467 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:54,480 at Peking Bay grabbed Wundans, 2468 01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:55,720 and Wundans was quite young, 2469 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,560 I think it was like three or something, 2470 01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:59,760 and that I do nothing, it goes. 2471 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,720 So Wundans was crying, and I felt like, 2472 01:35:01,720 --> 01:35:04,400 oof, I've overexposed you to appoint your people, 2473 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:07,040 feel too familiar, you know? 2474 01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,600 In hindsight, not even at that time. 2475 01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:11,640 I was like, this lady was loving my boy. 2476 01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:15,720 You know, there was a situation where your honey city's name 2477 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:18,320 went to roles with him, he's got kids. 2478 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,280 He did the same thing with Wundans. 2479 01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,120 I do nothing, that's a crime. 2480 01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,880 I'm like, he's not saying out of militia, you know, 2481 01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,760 he's just, he saw a TikTok. 2482 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:28,000 - But it hurts your kid. 2483 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,480 - It hurts him, so because it hurts him, 2484 01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:33,160 I decided to stop, if that makes sense. 2485 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,880 - Would you not want to do that for them in future? 2486 01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:36,760 'Cause they kids, they won't know what will hurt them, 2487 01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,280 so you protect them, even for things 2488 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,720 they may not see in future, 'cause it starts with that. 2489 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,560 - You don't know what to do. 2490 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:43,640 - But it might be something else. 2491 01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,960 - I agree, I agree, and I disagree. 2492 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,920 So, for example, Uzi's that did cricket in grade three. 2493 01:35:49,920 --> 01:35:52,520 And in the year after he said he wants to move to basketball. 2494 01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:55,600 You know, I say from Kekko down, you need to do basketball. 2495 01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:58,040 Basketball is the best, like fucking me. 2496 01:35:58,040 --> 01:35:59,720 You do Zulu LeBron James. 2497 01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:04,720 They needs to, my job, that's what I'm seeing from a young age, 2498 01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,240 is to expose them, but then be the safety net. 2499 01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:09,240 'Cause I'm not kidding. 2500 01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,000 So it's tough because I don't have a blueprint, 2501 01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,160 because if I did everything that I wanted to do 2502 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:16,360 from a following point, 2503 01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,320 you would have never tried his hand at cricket. 2504 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,040 You would have never tried his hand at Maroomba. 2505 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,920 You would have even picked up the violin. 2506 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,280 'Cause I was like, "No, no, no, no. 2507 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,320 "You know, for my own personal reasons." 2508 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,960 So I'm saying to them, 2509 01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,120 everything that you do has pros and cons. 2510 01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,240 My job is to be right there, like, as best as I can. 2511 01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:36,720 So if you want to do TikToks, 2512 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,320 I'm trying to be as close as possible. 2513 01:36:39,320 --> 01:36:42,120 And when this happened, I see this and I pull back. 2514 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:43,760 - Before you split it, I want to ask, do you think? 2515 01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:44,840 - No, no, no, I'm not going to say it, 2516 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:46,320 'cause I think people who want to make a link, 2517 01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,240 no, it's not right, are you sure? 2518 01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,240 - It's tricky, sorry. 2519 01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:51,080 - Think about it, sorry. 2520 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,400 I want to ask Penson, 2521 01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:57,400 "Do you think your brand is safe for your kids?" 2522 01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,120 - No. 2523 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:00,720 - Yes. 2524 01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:01,560 - Yes. 2525 01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:05,240 - Before you answer, I want to mention 2526 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:08,200 the times I had conversations with the mothers of my kids, 2527 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:09,560 there were certain brands I mentioned, 2528 01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:11,800 which look, these guys posted their kids. 2529 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:12,720 - Sure. 2530 01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:14,560 - And the thing we came to a conclusion, 2531 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,480 which was very fair, was, 2532 01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:19,320 but those brands are not controversial like you. 2533 01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,120 You are deemed controversial, 2534 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:23,920 so it doesn't land the same. 2535 01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,560 So I'm asking with you, 2536 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,880 if you want to post your kids and you think it's great, 2537 01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,840 I personally think it's great. 2538 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,520 My concern, like with me, 2539 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:37,520 is I worry about your brand falling onto them, 2540 01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:40,520 because there's one thing with your kids making content. 2541 01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:42,920 There's another thing with your kids being in a space. 2542 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,200 You say something people don't like, 2543 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,640 and then they're on, 2544 01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:48,800 so yeah, your father is, what are you? 2545 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:52,800 - So my brand is all about trying to assist 2546 01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,560 the black child who's stuck. 2547 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:56,560 - People don't view it like that. 2548 01:37:56,560 --> 01:37:57,400 - That's okay. 2549 01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:58,320 - You might not view it like that. 2550 01:37:58,320 --> 01:38:00,720 I don't know if people, it's you. 2551 01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:01,560 - No. 2552 01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:02,560 - You think about what they think? 2553 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:04,120 - Penson is trying to help the black child. 2554 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:05,520 - My DMs are different, right? 2555 01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:08,000 - Oh, what? I don't know if I have to face it of something. 2556 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:09,440 - Why do they have something? 2557 01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:10,280 - So where am I? 2558 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:11,120 Okay, okay. 2559 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:11,960 - No. 2560 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,240 - I need to get information from Penson. 2561 01:38:13,240 --> 01:38:14,080 - Let me just ask it again. 2562 01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:15,080 - Penson, please ask. 2563 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:15,920 - Penson, please ask. 2564 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:16,760 - Let me ask it. 2565 01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:17,600 - Sorry. 2566 01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:18,440 Don't get it right down. 2567 01:38:18,440 --> 01:38:19,520 - I'm getting it right down. 2568 01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:20,360 - You're getting it right down. 2569 01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:21,200 - But it wasn't like a pitch. 2570 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:22,040 - Wait a minute. 2571 01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:22,880 - Let's not even think about him. 2572 01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:23,720 - Wait, let's speak. 2573 01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:24,560 - Let's speak. 2574 01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,400 - Let's speak. 2575 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:26,240 - Okay, sure. 2576 01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,840 You believe, forget your DMs. 2577 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:28,680 - Yeah. 2578 01:38:28,680 --> 01:38:31,480 - Forget, you believe that Penson's brand 2579 01:38:31,480 --> 01:38:35,920 is a guy who's trying to help the black child. 2580 01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:40,920 - What Penson is selling is black boy chart. 2581 01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:42,840 - You believe that's your brand? 2582 01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:43,680 - That's what I'm selling. 2583 01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,440 - What are people receiving? 2584 01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:48,000 - But, okay, so how would I know how people are receiving? 2585 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:48,840 Comments? 2586 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:49,680 - Yes, sir. 2587 01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:50,520 - DMs, that's what I know. 2588 01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:54,040 So if I go to this chat, 2589 01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:58,000 we have more positive responses than we got negative. 2590 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,720 Maybe if you're negative orientated, 2591 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,760 you'll focus on the 10% negative. 2592 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,000 But we have 90% positive. 2593 01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,200 - But we can say that there's 10,000 views, 2594 01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:08,520 there's 500 comments. 2595 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,760 - We can only base it when we get. 2596 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,160 So we don't know the person who's sitting on a comment 2597 01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,200 and he's not posting. 2598 01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:15,920 So I'm saying if there's 100 comments, 2599 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:20,120 90 are positive, bro. 2600 01:39:20,120 --> 01:39:24,240 So that's the only information and data we can have. 2601 01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:25,960 So when I look at my DMs, 2602 01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:30,960 when I post my kids, and I read the comments, 2603 01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:33,360 that's the only information I have. 2604 01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:34,680 Today at the Memorial Service, 2605 01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:37,080 I have two ladies saying, 2606 01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:39,840 "Bro, that video, what you're talking with your kids." 2607 01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,200 Hey, bro, bad video. - Stop that. 2608 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,400 - You're not even listening, bro. 2609 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:44,640 You're so negative. 2610 01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:45,840 Allow me to finish, sorry. 2611 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:50,080 I had two ladies' mothers saying that's so beautiful. 2612 01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:51,800 Oh my God, when I saw that, 2613 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,160 I shared it with another one man and we were like-- 2614 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:55,600 - 'Cause they want another man to change. 2615 01:39:55,600 --> 01:39:56,440 - That's why they say that. 2616 01:39:56,440 --> 01:39:58,160 - They're not sharing that because for them, 2617 01:39:58,160 --> 01:39:59,520 it was wholesome. 2618 01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:01,240 For you, you might see it somewhere else. 2619 01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:03,480 And that's okay because we don't see things the same. 2620 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:04,920 But I had two people approach it. 2621 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,840 I can only base it on the comments I receive. 2622 01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,920 I can't base anything on what I don't receive. 2623 01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:10,760 - Anything else, yeah. 2624 01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:11,600 - That's not very fair. 2625 01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:12,440 - Yeah. 2626 01:40:12,440 --> 01:40:16,120 So what I received today was two random ladies 2627 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:19,200 coming and saying positivity about me as a dad. 2628 01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,040 - Do you think that they're making you do more? 2629 01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,840 - Be it, but I must be for your personal. 2630 01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,760 I try to not lean into that. 2631 01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:29,760 - Okay. 2632 01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:32,360 - But from the comments that I pick up 2633 01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,640 when I'm with my kids, when I do things with my kids, 2634 01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,840 they're so overwhelmingly positive. 2635 01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,960 I will go to my kids' school. 2636 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,920 And white ladies are like, oh my God, 2637 01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,960 we saw this, I got shared in a group. 2638 01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:45,680 Oh my, that's so beautiful. 2639 01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:47,400 They will literally come. 2640 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,200 So I get negative comments, 2641 01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:50,720 like all of us get negative comments. 2642 01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:52,240 But if I'm being honest, 2643 01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,000 if I'm being truly, truly honest, 2644 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:55,560 like what I said earlier, 2645 01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,880 it's one in a river of positivity. 2646 01:40:58,880 --> 01:40:59,720 - Okay. 2647 01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:00,840 - And then because I'm, 2648 01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,960 yeah, when I'm making a zombie. 2649 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,000 (laughing) 2650 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:07,360 - Will you share what you wanted to say? 2651 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:08,200 - No, no, no. 2652 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,400 I think people are gonna make you a link. 2653 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,240 - You reckon? 2654 01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:11,360 - Yeah. 2655 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:12,600 - No, they won't, they won't. 2656 01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:14,080 - Okay, man, that's all I wanted to say, man. 2657 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,360 Risk in peace to Warwick Stock. 2658 01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,200 - Hey, Warren. 2659 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:17,040 - Hey, what about us? 2660 01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,120 - I'm sorry that we kind of used him for this conversation, 2661 01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:22,240 which I think is very difficult, 2662 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:26,360 but I hope there was something to extract from it. 2663 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,080 Yeah. 2664 01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,160 - That's what I wanted to say. 2665 01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:30,000 - Before you go, 2666 01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:32,960 would these death, did you mirror anything 2667 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:34,520 in your own personal life? 2668 01:41:34,520 --> 01:41:42,160 Like what was the activist part of him? 2669 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:43,920 Is what I believe? 2670 01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:46,360 - I did, but I don't wanna talk about it. 2671 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:47,200 - Okay. 2672 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:48,040 - Okay. 2673 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:48,880 - Okay. 2674 01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:49,720 - All right. 2675 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:50,560 - I can explain why. 2676 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:51,400 - Yeah. 2677 01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:52,240 - Yeah. 2678 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:54,080 - You know, kula wami. 2679 01:41:54,080 --> 01:41:54,920 - Yeah? 2680 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,320 - You know, we're constantly changing and we're all taught, 2681 01:41:56,320 --> 01:42:01,320 but I'm trying to not make certain things about me. 2682 01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,400 And it may not be about me, 2683 01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:08,640 but the way it lands might be as if it's about me. 2684 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:09,640 - Yes. 2685 01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:11,400 - But this day of nuggets that you can pick from this. 2686 01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:13,720 - I can mention the nuggets without making them about me. 2687 01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:14,560 - Okay. 2688 01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:15,920 - All right, fair enough, fair enough, fair enough. 2689 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,640 So I'm choosing, and other people are free to do their thing. 2690 01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:21,120 I'm choosing to not. 2691 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:21,880 So for example, 2692 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:23,640 the tips I spoke about the father thing, 2693 01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:25,560 and then I personalized it as an example. 2694 01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,040 This thing that I'm saying I'm not gonna do, 2695 01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:28,760 I did it in this example, 2696 01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:30,840 but I don't want to. 2697 01:42:30,840 --> 01:42:32,760 I don't wanna mention things about him. 2698 01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,360 And be like, yeah, I wouldn't do this, 2699 01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:36,880 or I would do this, or it reminded me of, 2700 01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,120 it feels like at my age and my experience, 2701 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:41,160 like you're almost taking away, 2702 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:42,640 we'd rather just focus on him. 2703 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:43,480 - Yeah. 2704 01:42:43,480 --> 01:42:44,320 - Yeah. 2705 01:42:44,320 --> 01:42:45,960 - Yeah, for me, the activism thing, 2706 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:47,520 it's our own really wanna speak about it 2707 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:50,320 in the sense of the one line or all the same, 2708 01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,720 don't be a hero for South Africans. 2709 01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,280 For me, the activism thing ends there. 2710 01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:55,440 - But it's not about that at all. 2711 01:42:55,440 --> 01:42:56,280 - No, no, no, no. 2712 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:57,320 - Can we move away from others? 2713 01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:58,160 - Yeah, sure. 2714 01:42:58,160 --> 01:42:59,000 - The only thing. 2715 01:42:59,000 --> 01:42:59,840 - It's the only thing. 2716 01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:00,680 - The only thing. 2717 01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:01,520 - It's the forbearance I joke. 2718 01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:02,360 - Yeah, hey, hey, that story. 2719 01:43:02,360 --> 01:43:03,800 The only thing for me, 2720 01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,120 big believer in us, by my son. 2721 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:07,960 - Yeah, for me. 2722 01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:09,320 - It's the best that you can do. 2723 01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,160 - Mm. 2724 01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:11,000 - Mm. 2725 01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,880 - We don't do it at different levels, right? 2726 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:13,720 - No. 2727 01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,000 - Some people can post, some people can talk, 2728 01:43:15,000 --> 01:43:16,320 some people can actually be in the trenches. 2729 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,160 - So nice. 2730 01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:19,200 - We all gifted at different levels. 2731 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:23,320 - No, I mean, I think I will say directly to what you're asking. 2732 01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,200 It's the Lintone, I'm not speaking about it. 2733 01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:28,920 It's the American because I face the similar thing. 2734 01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:29,960 Lint goes here, 2735 01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,800 this thing of being in the hospital at a certain time. 2736 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,560 I face that thing for your brother knows 2737 01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:37,800 the thing that I went through. 2738 01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:41,560 I face that thing, and I had a conflict with it all day, 2739 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:43,280 and you can't be near it because of, 2740 01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:45,680 and the father thing just spiked up. 2741 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:47,760 So that thing for me is a thing 2742 01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,640 that touched me out of everything in there. 2743 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:53,280 - Do you know what's got me so emotional? 2744 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,800 And Lugo was right with certain people 2745 01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:00,800 having control at that time when I read it, 2746 01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:04,400 is because I think something changes, 2747 01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,280 bro, when you're a father talk. 2748 01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:07,120 - Yeah. 2749 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,280 - And we get so much backlash 2750 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,040 as if, like-- 2751 01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,200 - It's what we're trying to focus on. 2752 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,960 - Yeah, because we compared to TV dads a lot of the time, 2753 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:22,960 or some person's creation of what a dad must be. 2754 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:28,520 You know, whatever that may look like, I don't know. 2755 01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:32,080 - Normally, women, I'm talking about everyone. 2756 01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:32,920 I don't wanna just-- 2757 01:44:32,920 --> 01:44:36,000 - But it's mostly women who create a perception 2758 01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:37,400 of what a dad should be. 2759 01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:38,240 - Okay. 2760 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:39,080 - I find that much at their own speed 2761 01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:40,720 that much-- - And they get it from movies. 2762 01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:45,720 - So you're right, but I don't wanna leave guys out of it. 2763 01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:48,560 And I'll tell you why. 2764 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:52,040 Because a lot of guys that don't have kids 2765 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:56,520 have created something in their brain 2766 01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:58,520 about kids and being a dad. 2767 01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:02,080 And I want to involve them in this. 2768 01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:05,320 So the dads that don't create that bubble, 2769 01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,080 the men that don't create that bubble 2770 01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,240 tend to be for the Zuri. 2771 01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:13,760 So I want to only excuse that group. 2772 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:19,800 It's so challenging to be a parent. 2773 01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,080 Mother, dad, doesn't matter. 2774 01:45:22,080 --> 01:45:25,680 But I don't hear a lot of fathers telling mothers 2775 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:27,360 how to mother. 2776 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,640 But I hear a lot of mothers and gentlemen, 2777 01:45:30,640 --> 01:45:33,920 not fathers telling us how to father. 2778 01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:34,760 - Yes. 2779 01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:36,680 - And telling us what we need to do. 2780 01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:39,560 And calling us out, you're a dead beat. 2781 01:45:39,560 --> 01:45:40,640 I'm this loser. 2782 01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:41,600 I'm aggressive. 2783 01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,680 I shouldn't do this. 2784 01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:43,720 I'm a dada dada. 2785 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:44,640 You're so toxic. 2786 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:45,480 You're so-- 2787 01:45:45,480 --> 01:45:47,000 And I'm like, oh my God. 2788 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:48,320 (dramatic music) 2789 01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:50,520 I was Zuri and got an outfit. 2790 01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:52,440 - Remember one of the chairs we had with Dora's here, 2791 01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:55,920 which I asked you guys was how much contact time. 2792 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:58,080 How much contact time a father should spend with their child. 2793 01:45:58,080 --> 01:46:01,000 And also, we also spoke about how much money 2794 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:02,680 you must put into your child. 2795 01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:07,680 - Just anyone to, real fathers have different types 2796 01:46:07,680 --> 01:46:09,520 of chats on your substance. 2797 01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,960 But I'm saying, Woody, when I speak to fathers, 2798 01:46:13,960 --> 01:46:16,560 generally speaking, we'll judge each other 2799 01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,560 but we're not that harsh, generally speaking. 2800 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,760 For me, I've gotten the worst criticism, 2801 01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,560 not even critique from chains that don't have kids. 2802 01:46:25,560 --> 01:46:27,760 Not from mothers, not from females. 2803 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:28,600 - That's always true, sir. 2804 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,320 - I've gotten the harshest, sorry. 2805 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:33,840 - He's not drinking alcohol, so I'm gonna-- 2806 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:34,680 - What is it? 2807 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:35,520 What is it, juicy? 2808 01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,040 - That's very acidic. 2809 01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:37,880 - Okay. 2810 01:46:37,880 --> 01:46:38,720 - Which means what? 2811 01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:40,800 - It's half past eight. 2812 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:41,640 - You're the last person-- 2813 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:43,440 - And what happens with orange juice that I've always ate? 2814 01:46:43,440 --> 01:46:44,760 - You're the last person. 2815 01:46:44,760 --> 01:46:47,520 (speaks in foreign language) 2816 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:49,420 (speaks in foreign language) 2817 01:46:49,420 --> 01:46:51,320 - Hey, hey, hey, hey. 2818 01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,160 - This is-- 2819 01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:55,000 (speaks in foreign language) 2820 01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,000 - It's called the dead body, and the hands love it. 2821 01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:58,520 - Ha, hey, hey, hey. 2822 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:00,520 They love it when they are a bit chubby 2823 01:47:00,520 --> 01:47:02,120 'cause it makes them feel good about 2824 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,320 their bodies. 2825 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:07,280 - No, a dead body means this guy doesn't live at the gym. 2826 01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:08,440 He has time for me. 2827 01:47:08,440 --> 01:47:10,240 (speaks in foreign language) 2828 01:47:10,240 --> 01:47:11,920 - Oh, he's got time for-- 2829 01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:12,920 - Other things. 2830 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:14,080 - Like my cooking. 2831 01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,640 - Oh, maybe you're all dead. 2832 01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:17,480 - Maybe you're all dead. 2833 01:47:17,480 --> 01:47:18,580 - He's probably at his home. 2834 01:47:18,580 --> 01:47:19,420 - Cheers. 2835 01:47:19,420 --> 01:47:20,260 - Cheers. 2836 01:47:20,260 --> 01:47:21,100 - What are you there watching? 2837 01:47:21,100 --> 01:47:22,080 - You're such a voice. 2838 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:23,160 - And holy drinking. 2839 01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,000 - Are you? 2840 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:24,840 - The boy's just a dead body. 2841 01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:25,680 - With the dead body. 2842 01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:27,520 - No, dead body's a dead body. 2843 01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,440 - With the kid eating your wife's cooking. 2844 01:47:29,440 --> 01:47:30,280 - That's awesome. 2845 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:31,120 - Dead body's good. 2846 01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:31,960 - Dead body's good. 2847 01:47:31,960 --> 01:47:33,880 - And on board means you're so frustrated, 2848 01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:34,800 but it's crazy. 2849 01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:38,780 (speaks in foreign language) 2850 01:47:38,780 --> 01:47:43,120 (speaks in foreign language) 2851 01:47:43,120 --> 01:47:46,280 - Tell me what happens to a happy woman, right? 2852 01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:47,120 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2853 01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:47,960 - Oh, what? 2854 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:48,800 - I don't know what happens to a dead body. 2855 01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:49,640 - And then what happens to her? 2856 01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:50,480 - What happens to her? 2857 01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:51,320 - What happens to her? 2858 01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:52,160 - What happens after she gets to her? 2859 01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:53,000 - What happens to her? 2860 01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:53,840 - What happens to her? 2861 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:54,680 - What happens to her? 2862 01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:55,520 - And she wants to find another man? 2863 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,880 - What happens to a healthy woman when she's happy? 2864 01:47:57,880 --> 01:47:59,820 (speaks in foreign language) 2865 01:47:59,820 --> 01:48:03,640 (speaks in foreign language) 2866 01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:07,320 (speaks in foreign language) 2867 01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:11,140 (speaks in foreign language) 2868 01:48:11,140 --> 01:48:14,800 (speaks in foreign language) 2869 01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:18,380 (speaks in foreign language) 2870 01:48:18,380 --> 01:48:21,840 - So I've got the right, you've got to have a right. 2871 01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:25,760 (speaks in foreign language) 2872 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:28,800 (speaks in foreign language) 2873 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:29,840 - I have to take it. 2874 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:30,840 - I like to steal it. 2875 01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:31,680 - Let's go home. 2876 01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:32,520 - Let's go home. 2877 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:33,360 (speaks in foreign language) 2878 01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:35,160 - Every time you say it, yeah? 2879 01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,160 - I'm gonna get this t-shirt. 2880 01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:37,760 - Every time you say it in the embargo. 2881 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:39,080 I have to take it off. 2882 01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:39,920 You know why? 2883 01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:40,760 - What? 2884 01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:42,720 - Let me tell you why, God. 2885 01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:47,560 You know how many men keep the cap on, 2886 01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:52,400 because what about the guy said, 2887 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,320 he's like what he spoke about. 2888 01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,360 He has power over you. 2889 01:48:56,360 --> 01:49:00,200 (speaks in foreign language) 2890 01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:04,740 - You used to be that guy? 2891 01:49:04,740 --> 01:49:05,580 - You used to be that guy. 2892 01:49:05,580 --> 01:49:06,820 - I've never been that guy. 2893 01:49:06,820 --> 01:49:09,820 (speaks in foreign language) 2894 01:49:09,820 --> 01:49:10,660 - You've never been that guy? 2895 01:49:10,660 --> 01:49:14,780 - No, I'm not like to show up or, 2896 01:49:14,780 --> 01:49:15,920 and that's what I say. 2897 01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:17,000 That's what I always say. 2898 01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,080 Every man must have a superpower. 2899 01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,920 (speaks in foreign language) 2900 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:23,360 (laughing) 2901 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:27,280 (speaks in foreign language) 2902 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:36,720 - I realize, I want you to allow that put on the cap. 2903 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,440 There's something that they are missing. 2904 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:41,720 It's like the comfort thing, we are a comfort. 2905 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,060 (speaks in foreign language) 2906 01:49:45,060 --> 01:49:46,400 - Yeah, you get extremely angry. 2907 01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:47,220 - I do get extremely angry. 2908 01:49:47,220 --> 01:49:48,040 - So if you don't have to realize, 2909 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,560 you also fit every man must have a superpower jump. 2910 01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,240 Even if someone hits with a champ, 2911 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,560 (speaks in foreign language) 2912 01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,900 (speaks in foreign language) 2913 01:49:59,900 --> 01:50:03,560 (speaks in foreign language) 2914 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,400 (speaks in foreign language) 2915 01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:10,080 (speaks in foreign language) 2916 01:50:10,080 --> 01:50:13,640 (speaks in foreign language) 2917 01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:17,560 (speaks in foreign language) 2918 01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:20,920 (speaks in foreign language) 2919 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:21,760 - No, take it off when you want. 2920 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:22,600 You're still reacting. 2921 01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:23,600 - Yeah, I don't know for sure, yeah. 2922 01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:26,560 But I've seen guys in real life. 2923 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,280 (speaks in foreign language) 2924 01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:32,520 Even if it's their closest friend, (speaks in foreign language) 2925 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:33,920 - I wanted to say you guys must also, 2926 01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:37,520 and that thing I was saying earlier about avoiding 2927 01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:41,800 or side-stepping negativity, incentivize positivity. 2928 01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,240 What most people want on social media is a reaction. 2929 01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:47,960 So you must reward positive 2930 01:50:47,960 --> 01:50:50,760 'cause a lot of people don't respond to positive. 2931 01:50:50,760 --> 01:50:55,760 It's like, oh, nice, how do we incentivize positivity? 2932 01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,240 You respond and you're like, 2933 01:50:57,240 --> 01:50:58,360 - Make it them, but nothing. 2934 01:50:58,360 --> 01:50:59,720 You just didn't talk about it in bant. 2935 01:50:59,720 --> 01:51:01,560 You joke, what should happen? 2936 01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:02,640 - I did that. 2937 01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,640 I did that with, I was talking shit 2938 01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:07,520 and I said nice things like that, that's not nice. 2939 01:51:07,520 --> 01:51:09,360 But it's okay, please me, watch the full episode. 2940 01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:10,200 - That's not what I mean. 2941 01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:12,280 - And then I liked and then it started following me. 2942 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:13,600 - I'm not talking about that. 2943 01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:15,600 I'm talking about this 30 comments, 2944 01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,400 25 of them are negative. 2945 01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:19,800 25 of them are positive, five are negative. 2946 01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:21,400 - I'm saying blue tick the negative. 2947 01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:22,240 - Nice. 2948 01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:25,600 - Respond to the positive so that the negative guys 2949 01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,160 are like, oh, when you only respond 2950 01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:28,480 to the positive, what to add? 2951 01:51:28,480 --> 01:51:29,600 By ignoring. 2952 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:31,640 Then when they're like, what a nice video. 2953 01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:33,720 You're like, oh, thank you so much. 2954 01:51:33,720 --> 01:51:36,040 And then you're only response to positive. 2955 01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:37,960 You trace very nicely today. 2956 01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:39,960 Hey, thanks, I also like your profile. 2957 01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:42,000 - I respond to negatives. 2958 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:42,840 - Nice. 2959 01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:43,680 - It's too much work. 2960 01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:44,720 You're still giving them energy. 2961 01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,200 They'll keep going negative 'cause that's when you respond. 2962 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,760 - So the reason why is because from my experience, 2963 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:53,320 every time I'm responding to negatives in a positive, 2964 01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,320 they've changed their tune. 2965 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:56,160 - Yeah, it's worth it. 2966 01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,280 - But I'm just saying, just don't reward it. 2967 01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,760 - It's almost like, so I'm yet to experience 2968 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,880 someone who responded negatively or say something negative, 2969 01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,040 I responded positive and then I got a negative. 2970 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,200 - Every time my point is you're working too hard. 2971 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,200 - Just ignore them. 2972 01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:12,800 - But don't feed them at all. 2973 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:13,640 - Or, but shouldn't. 2974 01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:15,280 - Whether you're feeding them good food or bad food, 2975 01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:18,280 don't feed them, be ignoring is still part of. 2976 01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,040 It's still doing something. 2977 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:20,880 - It's doing nothing. 2978 01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,040 - No, it is. 2979 01:52:22,040 --> 01:52:23,280 - What does it do to control you? 2980 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:24,280 - 'Cause you want to save. 2981 01:52:24,280 --> 01:52:25,800 (speaks in foreign language) 2982 01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:27,720 - But now you have to hold yourself back. 2983 01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:29,040 No, but you have to fight yourself. 2984 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:29,880 - No, you don't fight. 2985 01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,840 This is what I'm saying, you learn to avoid. 2986 01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:35,920 For me, for me, it's not only in my contour. 2987 01:52:35,920 --> 01:52:37,680 - When someone says something negative, 2988 01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,560 if it's sideways, like let's say your mom, I just block. 2989 01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:43,560 So I fully punish. 2990 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,200 I cancel their visa. 2991 01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:47,640 (speaks in foreign language) 2992 01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:50,120 - You report to their comment as well, maybe then. 2993 01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:50,960 - I don't. 2994 01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:51,800 I just block them. 2995 01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,400 I don't want your energy at, 2996 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,440 whether you're trying to catch my attention, 2997 01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:58,760 you want me to say something positive, you're out. 2998 01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,760 So that other people now know what to say. 2999 01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,080 'Cause they say on other, yeah, this nigga blocked me. 3000 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:05,500 What did you say to him? 3001 01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:07,600 Nah, like I'm a man, or they say. 3002 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:08,720 It's like, oh no, he blocks that. 3003 01:53:08,720 --> 01:53:10,480 Someone will be like, oh, this guy blocks. 3004 01:53:10,480 --> 01:53:13,000 Nope, I've criticized this guy many times 3005 01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:15,480 and it engages when I criticize. 3006 01:53:15,480 --> 01:53:16,720 It's when you come sideways. 3007 01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,960 - There's a person, and I don't want to give this air, 3008 01:53:19,960 --> 01:53:21,480 'cause it's, oh, am I taken? 3009 01:53:21,480 --> 01:53:22,400 (speaks in foreign language) 3010 01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,680 - No, no, no, no, I must nigga. 3011 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,600 So he said something, and I responded, 3012 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,240 but I was very toxic, nah? 3013 01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,080 And I was like, she-- 3014 01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:30,920 - Well, he did toxic. 3015 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,680 - Yeah, I was aggressive when I responded. 3016 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,360 And I was like, let's link up, nah? 3017 01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:39,200 So he backed himself, and he sent me a DM, which he might be. 3018 01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:40,040 Yeah, one, 'cause I was like, 3019 01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,160 hey, brother, you forgot a problem, he's like, okay, tell me. 3020 01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,360 And then he actually came to my gym, 3021 01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:46,800 and then I was like, I've got gloves in the car, 3022 01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:47,960 I have face gloves. 3023 01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:49,360 I'm telling doo-- 3024 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:50,200 - Nice. 3025 01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:51,040 (laughs) 3026 01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:51,880 - You stole it man. 3027 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:52,800 - And I said, look, that's why you come here, 3028 01:53:52,800 --> 01:53:53,800 I see what you're coming here. 3029 01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:55,680 But I didn't want to go to Nimshaya to appoint 3030 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:58,720 to a person post a photo to a team in Nimshaya, Pusi. 3031 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,160 But it was, I think that this far, you know, 3032 01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:01,240 when you spar him, you know, 3033 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:04,320 he's like, we, but I was so strategic. 3034 01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,120 - You spar, Sizzo? 3035 01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:07,520 - Yeah, well, you sparred, Sizzo-- 3036 01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:08,880 - But pencil athlete. 3037 01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:10,160 - No, I didn't, once. 3038 01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:11,240 - Or once, okay. 3039 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,600 Well, Sizzo's an athlete, he can do whatever I want, 3040 01:54:13,600 --> 01:54:14,800 whatever he wants. 3041 01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:17,000 - He can do the ones that he, whatever wants. 3042 01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,080 - Sizzo can do Iron Man tomorrow. 3043 01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:21,640 But anyway, I felt so good, 'cause I was like, okay. 3044 01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:22,800 - Sure, Iron Man. 3045 01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:23,640 - Strategically. 3046 01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:25,480 But I also, look, Val is, 3047 01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:27,120 Lunga's right, Lunga's actually right, 3048 01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,600 because I do go overboard, 3049 01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:33,600 and I give these guys too much traction. 3050 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,840 (speaking in foreign language) 3051 01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:39,680 I give too much traction. 3052 01:54:39,680 --> 01:54:41,980 - That's all I can do. - Lunga is right. 3053 01:54:41,980 --> 01:54:43,840 I give too much traction. 3054 01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,480 - In, I give too much traction, bro, 3055 01:54:47,480 --> 01:54:48,800 to some of these negative comments, 3056 01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,280 and I need to work on that. 3057 01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:55,280 And what's worse is that out of 100 comments, 3058 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:58,640 it is one that tends to be negative. 3059 01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:03,480 And then I will put so much energy on one, 3060 01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,680 instead of focusing on the maturity 3061 01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:09,520 that is actually pure and nice, 3062 01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,360 and you also realize that some of them 3063 01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,640 is not negatively just banter, you know, change, bro. 3064 01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,600 Sometimes it's like, hey, yeah, like, 3065 01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:16,840 don't take it too personally, 3066 01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,840 they're making a comment about your shoes, you know, you know. 3067 01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,880 But like, I also need to learn how to manage myself 3068 01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:27,080 in that space, but the only case to family, 3069 01:55:27,080 --> 01:55:29,200 I think I then get clumsy. 3070 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,840 Anyway, can we say we're doing this one for an hour? 3071 01:55:32,840 --> 01:55:34,560 - Yeah, we have too close. 3072 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,160 It's enough now. 3073 01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:37,760 - Is this an hour, Sizzo? 3074 01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,760 Oh yeah, it's two hours. 3075 01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:41,880 Like an hour 15, didn't get to two hours. 3076 01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:43,800 - Is that an hour? - One hour 54. 3077 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:44,640 - Yes. 3078 01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:45,480 - It's two hours. 3079 01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:46,600 - You guys have been six hours. 3080 01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:47,800 - It's about six, it's about eight. 3081 01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:49,120 - Manji, I want to see you guys. 3082 01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,720 (speaking in foreign language) 3083 01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,560 - When you watch. 3084 01:55:53,560 --> 01:55:57,160 (speaking in foreign language) 3085 01:55:57,160 --> 01:56:01,800 - I did say I'm a chancy, you show your man. 3086 01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:03,440 Clearly, it's weird just to lie. 3087 01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:04,280 - I showed you. 3088 01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,760 I showed you the stuff, and you like, don't show me. 3089 01:56:06,760 --> 01:56:09,200 And I showed you the receipts. 3090 01:56:09,200 --> 01:56:10,720 I showed you the receipts, 3091 01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:12,840 and you're like, I must show you the receipts. 3092 01:56:12,840 --> 01:56:13,680 So I'm not. 3093 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,080 - This episode, I just check it out, 3094 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,200 in case it's airing on the 9th of January. 3095 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:20,200 - Oh, it's so fun. 3096 01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:21,600 - It's very fun, not for sure. 3097 01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:23,280 Good luck to the people who are starting gym, 3098 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:26,280 and they're gonna fall off in March, April. 3099 01:56:26,280 --> 01:56:27,120 - March. 3100 01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:27,960 - Negative? 3101 01:56:27,960 --> 01:56:29,480 - They fall off the two weeks. 3102 01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:30,320 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 3103 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:31,160 It's fine. 3104 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:32,000 - All right, these are your closing ones. 3105 01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:32,840 - Yeah, I'm closing. 3106 01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:36,920 (laughing) 3107 01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:39,360 (laughing) 3108 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:40,200 - That's it? 3109 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:42,560 (laughing) 3110 01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:44,240 - You are so toxic, man. 3111 01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:46,280 - Okay, this is why people say shit about us, man. 3112 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,000 - No, no, they say, no, no. 3113 01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:48,840 - 100%. 3114 01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:52,680 (speaking in foreign language) 3115 01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,480 For four hours a day. 3116 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:05,760 - Yeah. 3117 01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,440 - That is the game to gym two days a day. 3118 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:08,440 It's been a day. 3119 01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:09,280 - Two hours a day. 3120 01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:10,120 - Are you at the gym for four hours a day? 3121 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:11,960 - I leave to it. 3122 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:12,800 - Only on a Sunday. 3123 01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:13,660 (speaking in foreign language) 3124 01:57:13,660 --> 01:57:15,640 We're proofing it in this episode. 3125 01:57:15,640 --> 01:57:17,720 (speaking in foreign language) 3126 01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,720 So if you stay on a Sunday, 3127 01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:21,600 it's there for four hours on a Sunday. 3128 01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:23,760 It's a gym for four hours every day. 3129 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:25,640 - Yeah, no, the other days is two hours. 3130 01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:27,360 Two hours on it. 3131 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,280 - Yes, but what I've seen is that. 3132 01:57:29,280 --> 01:57:31,640 (speaking in foreign language) 3133 01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:35,560 (speaking in foreign language) 3134 01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:47,640 (speaking in foreign language) 3135 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:05,800 (speaking in foreign language) 3136 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,560 - Or you're giving advice based 3137 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,440 on this dropping in January. 3138 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:12,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3139 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,560 New Year resolution. 3140 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,560 (speaking in foreign language) 3141 01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:17,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3142 01:58:17,400 --> 01:58:18,400 I'm gonna go to this at the beginning. 3143 01:58:18,400 --> 01:58:19,240 This is the end. 3144 01:58:19,240 --> 01:58:21,200 - You gotta still record next week on Christmas, bro. 3145 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:22,040 - Yes. 3146 01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:23,040 (speaking in foreign language) 3147 01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:24,640 - No, no, no, we're gonna record after. 3148 01:58:24,640 --> 01:58:25,480 - When? 3149 01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:26,600 - The day after Christmas. 3150 01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,080 - It Christmas doesn't mean anything. 3151 01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:30,040 - No, no, it didn't mean Christmas doesn't mean anything. 3152 01:58:30,040 --> 01:58:30,880 - No, no, no, no, no. 3153 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:33,520 - I'm not recording on Jesus day, bro. 3154 01:58:33,520 --> 01:58:34,360 You can record on Jesus day. 3155 01:58:34,360 --> 01:58:35,200 - I see what you're doing. 3156 01:58:35,200 --> 01:58:36,640 I won't go there. 3157 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:37,960 - I'm not a child. 3158 01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:38,800 - You're not a child. 3159 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,100 - Jesus day is not a thing to do. 3160 01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:42,600 - Ah, I see what you're doing. 3161 01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:44,440 'Cause you know me and Christ. 3162 01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:45,520 - You know my views? 3163 01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:47,640 - Christ, I will not fall for it. 3164 01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:53,000 (speaking in foreign language) 3165 01:58:53,000 --> 01:58:55,260 (laughing) 3166 01:58:55,260 --> 01:58:58,760 (speaking in foreign language) 3167 01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,640 - So we're recording on the 26th. 3168 01:59:00,640 --> 01:59:01,880 - Let's record the next day. 3169 01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:02,960 I think we should be back. 3170 01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:04,960 (speaking in foreign language) 3171 01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:06,400 - E-26. 3172 01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:07,920 - No, I'm not recording Christmas, bro. 3173 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,280 - No, no, no one said no, no! 3174 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,560 - You watched the recording Christmas. 3175 01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:11,760 - No, it's on the 26th. 3176 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,080 - So what's your view on Christmas and Jesus? 3177 01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:15,120 - No, I'm saying it's good. 3178 01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:16,680 It's my time with the family. 3179 01:59:16,680 --> 01:59:18,280 - We're not doing, we don't wanna say it. 3180 01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:20,040 - When you come back, when you say it's on the 26th. 3181 01:59:20,040 --> 01:59:23,440 - No, I absolutely, no, it's just what we can do. 3182 01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:26,440 (speaking in foreign language) 3183 01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:29,400 - But do we can record on E-26 and you're finally dead? 3184 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:30,240 - On the Friday. 3185 01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:31,080 - Yes. 3186 01:59:31,080 --> 01:59:31,920 - Is it 26? 3187 01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:35,840 (speaking in foreign language) 3188 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,840 (speaking in foreign language) 3189 01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:39,040 - I agree with you. 3190 01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,680 - Can we record on the 24th or on the 23rd? 3191 01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,560 - No, Boxing Day is to do it gifts. 3192 01:59:43,560 --> 01:59:45,440 So the box is actually a box. 3193 01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,680 (speaking in foreign language) 3194 01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,040 - No, it's for Charity Day. 3195 01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:51,840 (speaking in foreign language) 3196 01:59:51,840 --> 01:59:53,960 - It's on the Charity Day that started in the United Kingdom. 3197 01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:55,160 It's actually a colonial. 3198 01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,760 (speaking in foreign language) 3199 01:59:56,760 --> 01:59:58,240 But it's become the day of goodwill now, 3200 01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:00,440 but it's Boxing Day for Monday. 3201 02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:01,920 - The UK and Commonwealth Nations. 3202 02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:02,760 - Good, nice. 3203 02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,560 - You're still working, bro. 3204 02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:06,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3205 02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:10,720 - You said to us that we can have you from the 15th. 3206 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:12,280 - You can have me any day, bro. 3207 02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:13,120 - That's what you said. 3208 02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:14,280 - My boot is your booty. 3209 02:00:14,280 --> 02:00:15,840 - But that's how I work. 3210 02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:16,880 But we record off the-- 3211 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:18,800 (speaking in foreign language) 3212 02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:20,280 (speaking in foreign language) 3213 02:00:20,280 --> 02:00:21,200 - Everything. 3214 02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:22,040 - I'm not. 3215 02:00:22,040 --> 02:00:23,040 - I'm working. 3216 02:00:23,040 --> 02:00:24,760 (speaking in foreign language) 3217 02:00:24,760 --> 02:00:26,600 - You said you're 15 and you're off. 3218 02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:29,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3219 02:00:29,080 --> 02:00:31,120 - Or tell your leaver. 3220 02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:33,960 - I started drinking from the first episode 3221 02:00:33,960 --> 02:00:36,320 that the rules don't apply for my leaver. 3222 02:00:36,320 --> 02:00:38,000 That's a different job. 3223 02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:39,080 - We can do Monday. 3224 02:00:39,080 --> 02:00:40,760 - Yeah. 3225 02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:41,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3226 02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:43,080 So we can't. 3227 02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,360 (speaking in foreign language) 3228 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:48,520 - No, I mean, I knew it was Sunday, Monday. 3229 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:52,880 - So, Caesar, you'll let us know when you're available. 3230 02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:54,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3231 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:55,080 - I'm asking with it. 3232 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:56,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3233 02:00:56,080 --> 02:00:56,920 - 26. 3234 02:00:56,920 --> 02:00:59,400 - Caesar, when you're available, is that fair? 3235 02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:01,200 - That's what I'm saying. 3236 02:01:01,200 --> 02:01:03,120 (speaking in foreign language) 3237 02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,520 - When you're available, is that fair? 3238 02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:06,680 - Listen to what I'm saying. 3239 02:01:06,680 --> 02:01:07,520 (speaking in foreign language) 3240 02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:09,000 - I'm available when you're available. 3241 02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:12,240 - We're gonna close in your remarks. 3242 02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:13,400 Can I say a lot? 3243 02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:14,240 - Yes, it's fair. 3244 02:01:14,240 --> 02:01:15,080 - Of course. 3245 02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:16,480 - You cannot answer. 3246 02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:17,760 - I haven't posted this on Twitter, 3247 02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:22,240 but I will probably tomorrow unspoken truths. 3248 02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:26,560 Number one, and people can use it, 3249 02:01:26,560 --> 02:01:28,560 not use it, disagree, whatever. 3250 02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:30,720 Being born light-skinned, 3251 02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:32,520 especially as a woman is an advantage. 3252 02:01:32,520 --> 02:01:36,600 Connections are more important than qualifications. 3253 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:41,080 Having lots of money makes you an apex predator 3254 02:01:41,080 --> 02:01:43,040 in the human and animal kingdom. 3255 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:46,000 The law is for the poor and for the middle class. 3256 02:01:46,000 --> 02:01:49,160 Voting doesn't change anything. 3257 02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:50,640 Funding politicians does. 3258 02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:54,320 There is no real democracy on earth. 3259 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:57,720 Just direct dictatorships and then the illusion of choice. 3260 02:01:57,720 --> 02:02:01,480 Women with big nicely shaped bombs 3261 02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:04,200 are more valuable than women with PhDs 3262 02:02:04,200 --> 02:02:05,400 or great personalities. 3263 02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:11,400 (speaking in foreign language) 3264 02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:24,080 (laughing) 3265 02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,280 - To fight women with degrees. 3266 02:02:26,280 --> 02:02:28,280 (speaking in foreign language) 3267 02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:32,080 - The Buddha's League is more important than a PhD. 3268 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:34,200 (whistling) 3269 02:02:34,200 --> 02:02:35,040 - Not more important, sorry. 3270 02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:36,200 (speaking in foreign language) 3271 02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:38,280 - Women with those bombs are more valuable. 3272 02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:42,320 - You are saying women that participants in the Buddha's League 3273 02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,480 are more valuable than women with PhDs 3274 02:02:44,480 --> 02:02:45,680 and great personalities. 3275 02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:49,360 - Great personalities are good thing though. 3276 02:02:49,360 --> 02:02:51,240 - Poverty leads to crime. 3277 02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:52,720 You can only be desperate for so long 3278 02:02:52,720 --> 02:02:54,160 before your morals cave in. 3279 02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:57,200 Pharmaceutical companies will never sell cures 3280 02:02:57,200 --> 02:02:59,480 because that's bad for business. 3281 02:02:59,480 --> 02:03:01,600 Banks create money out of thin air 3282 02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,960 through fractional reserve lending and interest. 3283 02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:07,560 Although interest on loans is haram in Islam, 3284 02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:09,160 profit is not. 3285 02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:10,800 Yet these are similar concepts. 3286 02:03:10,800 --> 02:03:13,920 Religion was invented to control human behavior 3287 02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:18,080 and contain the poor from revolting against the rich. 3288 02:03:18,080 --> 02:03:20,440 So I'm gonna post that as a treat probably tomorrow, 3289 02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:22,200 but it means it will come in soon. 3290 02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:23,600 - It will come in a place bed, in a place bed. 3291 02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:27,960 - The interest part is gonna get you canceled. 3292 02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:28,800 - Can I ask you that? 3293 02:03:28,800 --> 02:03:31,000 - Luckily the Islamic community and especially the guys 3294 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,320 who, the Muslims who comment on my stuff, 3295 02:03:34,320 --> 02:03:36,720 I love that they engage very academically. 3296 02:03:36,720 --> 02:03:38,720 So what I understand about Islam 3297 02:03:38,720 --> 02:03:42,800 and I stand to be corrected is they encourage, 3298 02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:45,280 unlike what I've seen with South African Christians, 3299 02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:47,640 the Muslims seem to encourage questions 3300 02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:50,920 because to them, it leads to greater understanding. 3301 02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:52,000 So they don't get hostile. 3302 02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,600 They'll want to explain why I'm right, 3303 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:57,480 why I'm wrong, why interest is haram, 3304 02:03:57,480 --> 02:03:59,560 why they think profit is not, 3305 02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,480 and why maybe my understanding is not. 3306 02:04:01,480 --> 02:04:05,440 And the true scholars will normally reference the Quran, 3307 02:04:05,440 --> 02:04:07,200 which then means then we all learn. 3308 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,160 (speaking in foreign language) 3309 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:16,680 So what's important about what I said is more valuable. 3310 02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:21,040 Not that woman with PhDs and great personalities are useless, 3311 02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:24,560 but in a societal scale, a woman with a nice bum 3312 02:04:24,560 --> 02:04:27,640 to an ordinary man is valued higher. 3313 02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:28,480 - I'm not fighting you. 3314 02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:29,400 - No, no, no, I hear you. 3315 02:04:29,400 --> 02:04:30,240 - You may. - I just, 3316 02:04:30,240 --> 02:04:32,040 you may. - You may, perfect sense. 3317 02:04:32,040 --> 02:04:33,520 Prudence still not gonna receive. 3318 02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:34,360 - That's okay. 3319 02:04:34,360 --> 02:04:35,840 I don't mind Prudence getting catchy things. 3320 02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:36,680 She's gonna be. 3321 02:04:36,680 --> 02:04:38,040 - And I'll just add to what you say. 3322 02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:39,680 'Cause you've posted something similar, 3323 02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:42,080 I don't know if it's the specifics, 3324 02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:44,400 and it made me realize of, 3325 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:48,720 oh, you've posted something about your lessons for 2025. 3326 02:04:48,720 --> 02:04:50,560 Something similar. 3327 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:51,400 - Okay. - Yeah. 3328 02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:55,800 And I was like, oh man, we need to have a chat. 3329 02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:57,680 'Cause I was like, there's some things that are truth 3330 02:04:57,680 --> 02:05:01,280 that I've learned myself. 3331 02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,320 And part of it that I wanna add to this 3332 02:05:03,320 --> 02:05:05,080 is that combat does not exist. 3333 02:05:05,080 --> 02:05:06,000 - Combat does not exist. 3334 02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:07,960 Combat does not exist. - Yeah, combat does not exist. 3335 02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:08,880 You know what's so crazy? 3336 02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:10,120 This thing's so obvious to us, 3337 02:05:10,120 --> 02:05:11,880 and we don't feel like we need to have a chat. 3338 02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:13,120 We don't even need to debate it. 3339 02:05:13,120 --> 02:05:14,760 - Yes. - Yeah. 3340 02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:19,200 - For 99.9% of people, they're like, what the fuck? 3341 02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:21,040 - Their first response is you'll say this 3342 02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,600 until karma hits you. - Yes. 3343 02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:23,960 - Then you'll change. 3344 02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:25,400 - Okay, whoo, whoo, whoo. 3345 02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:28,120 - And by the way, karma is from the Hindu Vedas. 3346 02:05:28,120 --> 02:05:32,240 It's part of the oldest, amongst the oldest religious texts. 3347 02:05:32,240 --> 02:05:35,120 There are so many aspects of our life 3348 02:05:35,120 --> 02:05:37,480 that come from Hinduism that people don't know. 3349 02:05:37,480 --> 02:05:39,960 Karma being one of them, another one being yoga, 3350 02:05:39,960 --> 02:05:40,800 as an example. 3351 02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,440 - Why don't you use these terms? - We don't even know. 3352 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:44,280 What's that? 3353 02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:46,600 - What's kamatsut? - What's kamatsut? 3354 02:05:46,600 --> 02:05:47,960 - Cesar's teaching me what kamatsut. 3355 02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:49,240 I don't know nothing about those type of things. 3356 02:05:49,240 --> 02:05:51,160 - So what did he teach you? - What did he teach you? 3357 02:05:51,160 --> 02:05:52,000 - I don't know, he said I must. 3358 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:54,680 Oh, see you guys during the chat. 3359 02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:55,520 I don't know. 3360 02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:57,200 Cesar you can eat that. 3361 02:05:57,200 --> 02:05:58,920 - What kind of bag is this? 3362 02:05:58,920 --> 02:06:00,000 - Okay, ma'am. 3363 02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:00,840 (laughing) 3364 02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:02,600 - Oh, you guys. - This is this. 3365 02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,040 - Cesar's not-- - Karma does not exist. 3366 02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:05,760 If you think about doing each on-pack, 3367 02:06:05,760 --> 02:06:07,240 like, you don't unpack some of the stuff. 3368 02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,960 Maybe the next one would unpack some of these things. 3369 02:06:09,960 --> 02:06:10,960 - I just wanted to read that, 3370 02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:12,800 and then I've got another closing put. 3371 02:06:12,800 --> 02:06:14,560 So feel free to do whatever you want. 3372 02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:18,800 - Karma in its form from, 3373 02:06:18,800 --> 02:06:22,280 almost say the weak person's perspective. 3374 02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,040 From a person's perspective is that 3375 02:06:24,040 --> 02:06:28,480 a higher being intervenes in the wrongdoings 3376 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:29,600 you've done to other people. 3377 02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:31,000 - The universe. - The universe. 3378 02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:31,840 - Or a higher being. 3379 02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:32,680 - Yeah, they come in and they're like, 3380 02:06:32,680 --> 02:06:34,920 "Yo, you did this. 3381 02:06:34,920 --> 02:06:37,640 So I'm gonna do this 3382 02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:41,360 because you wronged someone else." 3383 02:06:41,360 --> 02:06:42,400 - Yeah. 3384 02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:44,280 - That thing does not exist, 3385 02:06:44,280 --> 02:06:46,040 and you can divert karma 3386 02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:49,880 if it truly is a thing that exists in the universe. 3387 02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:51,000 - It's a coping mechanism. 3388 02:06:51,000 --> 02:06:53,920 Like God will leave them alone. 3389 02:06:53,920 --> 02:06:55,280 God will deal with them. 3390 02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:56,280 - The problem is wrong. 3391 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:58,440 - So Karma says, "Don't do anything." 3392 02:06:58,440 --> 02:06:59,280 (laughing) 3393 02:06:59,280 --> 02:07:01,800 The universe is something that's not wrong, 3394 02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:06,880 or doing bad, it's based on the context in which you're speaking. 3395 02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,640 'Cause let's take homosexuality 3396 02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:12,480 where there was a time where it was wrong. 3397 02:07:12,480 --> 02:07:13,320 - It was a sin. 3398 02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:14,160 - It was a sin. 3399 02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:16,640 - Punishable by being sent to hell is immoral. 3400 02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:20,480 The same way that in 2025 we've seen being a pedophile 3401 02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:22,240 that I'm not comparing it to, please. 3402 02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:23,560 - You can compare the two? 3403 02:07:23,560 --> 02:07:25,400 - No, I'm just trying to compare the wrong. 3404 02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:26,520 - No, no, no, you can compare it 3405 02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:28,480 because most other data are wrong, you know, 3406 02:07:28,480 --> 02:07:33,080 but most African countries, almost sexualities are crime. 3407 02:07:33,080 --> 02:07:34,400 - I know what you are saying. 3408 02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:35,760 - No, no, no, no. 3409 02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:37,400 - Okay, then you take over that chat. 3410 02:07:37,400 --> 02:07:39,000 - No, I just want to clear this up. 3411 02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:40,280 No, 'cause this is important. 3412 02:07:40,280 --> 02:07:42,200 I understand cancel culture. 3413 02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:43,840 And I understand the fears. 3414 02:07:43,840 --> 02:07:46,280 And I'd like to think all of us here 3415 02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:51,000 are very comfortable with homosexuality. 3416 02:07:51,000 --> 02:07:52,920 We've got a lot of friends who are gay. 3417 02:07:52,920 --> 02:07:53,960 That's not an issue. 3418 02:07:53,960 --> 02:07:55,920 - Why did you look at CZU when you say that? 3419 02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:56,760 - I didn't. 3420 02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,520 - I just got a problem. 3421 02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:01,320 - Yes, I get left on that. 3422 02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,560 It's your opener, huh? 3423 02:08:03,560 --> 02:08:08,560 - My point was, it is correct to compare homosexuality 3424 02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:13,680 to pedophilia because homosexuality 3425 02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,280 in many countries is deemed a crime. 3426 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:18,240 The same way pedophilia is deemed a crime. 3427 02:08:18,240 --> 02:08:19,080 - And you get it. 3428 02:08:19,080 --> 02:08:24,080 - Now we agree today that pedophilia is wrong. 3429 02:08:24,080 --> 02:08:27,560 It's immoral, it's illegal, et cetera. 3430 02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,800 There were times in the past where it was not, 3431 02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,040 where the people of the time was told it was okay. 3432 02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,360 They may be, to be honest, even today. 3433 02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:37,600 - They're the penalties. 3434 02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:39,840 - No, places in the world where it's allowed 3435 02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:43,360 for a grown man to marry a child and maybe even engage. 3436 02:08:43,360 --> 02:08:47,120 So I think the comparison is in the venue or going in 3437 02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:48,760 'cause you wanted to speak about karma 3438 02:08:48,760 --> 02:08:50,680 and we're almost sexuality is to be wrong. 3439 02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:52,040 - So a lot of people when they speak about karma, 3440 02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:55,400 they use the wrongs of contemporary spaces 3441 02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:57,640 that they are in, you know? 3442 02:08:57,640 --> 02:09:01,520 Because we will say a mother who steals a loaf, 3443 02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:04,000 a mother who is unemployed and poor, 3444 02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,680 who steals a loaf of bread to feed their kids. 3445 02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:07,760 We don't see that wrong. 3446 02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:11,240 So we never say karma will bite her, that one. 3447 02:09:11,240 --> 02:09:16,240 But the person who is doing corruption with X, Y, and Z 3448 02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,600 karma will see that person. 3449 02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:21,720 So it gave me the reason why it doesn't exist 3450 02:09:21,720 --> 02:09:23,920 is purely because we don't see the wrongs 3451 02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,320 and we don't know what the universe sees is wrong 3452 02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,360 and we don't know what the universe sees is right. 3453 02:09:28,360 --> 02:09:30,120 - What if there's an agreement? 3454 02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:31,680 - We do believe in karma. 3455 02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:35,800 - So I harm someone, I acknowledge I harm them, 3456 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:36,760 I feel guilty. 3457 02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:40,360 Do you think karma would then deal with me? 3458 02:09:40,360 --> 02:09:41,200 - No. 3459 02:09:41,200 --> 02:09:43,000 - Compared to the next person who harms someone, 3460 02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:44,720 they're like, "No, I don't know, I'm the major part of it." 3461 02:09:44,720 --> 02:09:49,560 So it can be contextual because I think when you are 3462 02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:54,640 in a community that all agrees that this is wrong, 3463 02:09:54,640 --> 02:09:59,640 they will then find areas where you might lose 3464 02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:04,840 and then they'll link that to what they deem 3465 02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,360 was your wrong behavior. 3466 02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:07,840 - And there's a consequence. 3467 02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:10,720 So whatever consequence, we will do a consequence video. 3468 02:10:10,720 --> 02:10:12,200 You're tired and you're still panched. 3469 02:10:12,200 --> 02:10:13,960 Let's just say for whatever reason. 3470 02:10:13,960 --> 02:10:16,400 And we all agree that the speed in which you guys 3471 02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:18,440 ate those chips was wrong. 3472 02:10:18,440 --> 02:10:20,160 Therefore you guys will deal with karma. 3473 02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:22,720 And then you go to the mojako, the one wheel is flirting, 3474 02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:25,640 "Oh, let's come." We will find things 3475 02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:26,880 to justify our beliefs. 3476 02:10:26,880 --> 02:10:27,920 - Maybe that's karma. 3477 02:10:27,920 --> 02:10:28,760 - No. 3478 02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:31,560 - Maybe karma doesn't come the way we think. 3479 02:10:31,560 --> 02:10:34,600 So for example, six before marriage 3480 02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:37,440 is wrong religiously and culturally. 3481 02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:38,280 - Sure. 3482 02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:41,880 - And karma becomes the dysfunctional relationships 3483 02:10:41,880 --> 02:10:46,200 we have today and broken families, but not all of you. 3484 02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:49,080 - But karma, we definitely do have six before marriage 3485 02:10:49,080 --> 02:10:50,440 has to deal with it. 3486 02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,760 Not everyone who has six before marriage deals with it. 3487 02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:54,600 - Deal with it. 3488 02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:55,440 - No, no, no, no. 3489 02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:57,520 So I'm writing on what you were saying 3490 02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,600 that we'll come up with an excuse to say. 3491 02:11:00,600 --> 02:11:01,520 - That's why. 3492 02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:03,400 - You did something wrong. 3493 02:11:03,400 --> 02:11:04,560 Yeah, that's why you hit a, 3494 02:11:04,560 --> 02:11:07,040 you hit a pothole for the shaman to give him karma. 3495 02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,200 That's karma. 3496 02:11:08,200 --> 02:11:11,680 And I'm saying maybe karma is something like that. 3497 02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:14,120 Maybe it's not what we think it is. 3498 02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:17,040 Maybe it's not a direct hit of Aichi and karma. 3499 02:11:17,040 --> 02:11:17,880 - Maybe. 3500 02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:19,720 - Three months later, someone hits me and karma. 3501 02:11:19,720 --> 02:11:23,160 - I think maybe it's, you hit me in karma, 3502 02:11:23,160 --> 02:11:25,280 I don't get the job at the job interview. 3503 02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,320 And at no point did I leave them. 3504 02:11:27,320 --> 02:11:29,160 - You were just bad at the interview. 3505 02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,680 - At no point do I leave it, but maybe that's karma. 3506 02:11:32,680 --> 02:11:34,240 - No, you can't be. 3507 02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:35,280 - 'Cause I know what you're saying. 3508 02:11:35,280 --> 02:11:37,200 - So you start saying, you won't agree. 3509 02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:38,400 - He's not, you won't agree. 3510 02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:39,400 - He's not saying it is. 3511 02:11:39,400 --> 02:11:41,040 He's saying maybe for- 3512 02:11:41,040 --> 02:11:42,880 - Maybe karma exists and we just- 3513 02:11:42,880 --> 02:11:44,320 (laughs) 3514 02:11:44,320 --> 02:11:45,320 - We just misunderstanding. 3515 02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:46,160 - No. 3516 02:11:47,240 --> 02:11:51,720 - Consistent multiple bad decisions lead to karma. 3517 02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:54,880 And in this example I'm saying karma. 3518 02:11:54,880 --> 02:11:57,800 In a sense that there's a popular limbo guy. 3519 02:11:57,800 --> 02:12:00,840 Should I say his name? 3520 02:12:00,840 --> 02:12:01,680 - No. 3521 02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:02,520 - He shivershirts. 3522 02:12:02,520 --> 02:12:03,400 - Oh, you've said it. 3523 02:12:03,400 --> 02:12:04,480 - No, it's public news. 3524 02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:05,320 - Oh yeah. 3525 02:12:05,320 --> 02:12:06,760 Unless you're bringing something- 3526 02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:07,600 - Yeah. 3527 02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:08,920 - I'm not aware of something. 3528 02:12:08,920 --> 02:12:09,960 - People are saying it's karma. 3529 02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:11,800 - I'm like, no. 3530 02:12:11,800 --> 02:12:12,680 It's not. 3531 02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:13,680 - It's bad behavior. 3532 02:12:13,680 --> 02:12:14,560 - What's karma? 3533 02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:15,560 - The consistent reason- 3534 02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:17,240 - He's not talking- - And he's not getting paid. 3535 02:12:17,240 --> 02:12:18,640 - Yeah, people say that it's karma. 3536 02:12:18,640 --> 02:12:19,480 - So I'm just- 3537 02:12:19,480 --> 02:12:20,320 - Just specify- 3538 02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:21,160 - Yeah, some might- 3539 02:12:21,160 --> 02:12:23,240 - Yeah, that festive season is not with us, 3540 02:12:23,240 --> 02:12:24,360 he's losing the gigs and all of it. 3541 02:12:24,360 --> 02:12:27,520 Which is not good for him and his personal life 3542 02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:29,320 and the people that he must support. 3543 02:12:29,320 --> 02:12:30,920 It's bad. 3544 02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:34,600 But if you look at the consistent multiple bad decisions, 3545 02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:37,160 they've led to the space that is in right now. 3546 02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:39,120 - I knew that- 3547 02:12:39,120 --> 02:12:40,120 - Isn't that karma? 3548 02:12:40,120 --> 02:12:40,960 - No. 3549 02:12:40,960 --> 02:12:41,960 - It's- 3550 02:12:41,960 --> 02:12:42,800 - Like definition? 3551 02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:44,440 - No, think about what karma is. 3552 02:12:44,440 --> 02:12:46,640 - Wait, karma from its purest form 3553 02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:47,960 and people speak about it. 3554 02:12:47,960 --> 02:12:49,640 It's a higher being intervening 3555 02:12:49,640 --> 02:12:51,240 because you've wronged someone. 3556 02:12:51,240 --> 02:12:52,080 - Isn't this- 3557 02:12:52,080 --> 02:12:52,920 - That's what karma is. 3558 02:12:52,920 --> 02:12:53,760 - No. 3559 02:12:53,760 --> 02:12:54,600 - No. 3560 02:12:54,600 --> 02:12:58,920 - Because the definition of karma is basically your actions 3561 02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:00,000 then determine your feelings. 3562 02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:01,880 - No, that's not what most people think karma is. 3563 02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:02,720 - That's what I'm saying. 3564 02:13:02,720 --> 02:13:03,560 Most people- 3565 02:13:03,560 --> 02:13:05,960 - I'm speaking from a most people definition. 3566 02:13:05,960 --> 02:13:07,160 Let's forget your definition. 3567 02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:08,000 Most people- 3568 02:13:08,000 --> 02:13:10,160 - When you're saying karma doesn't exist from like a factual, 3569 02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:11,160 not what people think. 3570 02:13:11,160 --> 02:13:14,240 - No, I'm saying what people define it as. 3571 02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:15,080 - Why do you start? 3572 02:13:15,080 --> 02:13:16,600 - Every answer would know. 3573 02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:18,800 - I'm saying that. 3574 02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,160 - But you say no to everything. 3575 02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:21,160 - No, it's fine. 3576 02:13:21,160 --> 02:13:22,080 - I'm saying that- 3577 02:13:22,080 --> 02:13:23,320 - No, it's fine. 3578 02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:24,160 No, it's fine. 3579 02:13:24,160 --> 02:13:25,000 No, yes, it's fine. 3580 02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:25,920 - No, no, it's fine. 3581 02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,080 - I'm saying that from the definition that I'm giving, 3582 02:13:28,080 --> 02:13:29,520 from what people say, 3583 02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:31,640 a higher being intervenes. 3584 02:13:31,640 --> 02:13:34,680 (speaking in foreign language) 3585 02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:38,200 (speaking in foreign language) 3586 02:13:38,200 --> 02:13:39,280 - Can I ask you a question? 3587 02:13:39,280 --> 02:13:41,000 (laughing) 3588 02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:44,000 (speaking in foreign language) 3589 02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:45,920 - Can I ask you a question? 3590 02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:46,800 (speaking in foreign language) 3591 02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:47,720 - Can I ask you a question? 3592 02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:48,960 - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 3593 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,280 - When you said karma doesn't exist. 3594 02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:52,120 - Yes. 3595 02:13:52,120 --> 02:13:54,360 - Were you speaking about generally what people know, 3596 02:13:54,360 --> 02:13:55,560 what do you mean? 3597 02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:56,400 You understand- 3598 02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:57,960 - No, I don't think karma is. 3599 02:13:57,960 --> 02:14:01,080 - Oh, so do you think in what karma really is it exists? 3600 02:14:01,080 --> 02:14:04,120 Or maybe you don't know what karma is. 3601 02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:06,080 (sighing) 3602 02:14:06,080 --> 02:14:07,320 'Cause when you say something flat, 3603 02:14:07,320 --> 02:14:08,560 like karma doesn't exist. 3604 02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:09,400 - Yeah, yeah. 3605 02:14:09,400 --> 02:14:10,240 - I'm- 3606 02:14:10,240 --> 02:14:11,560 - Or you're going to the definition of- 3607 02:14:11,560 --> 02:14:13,600 - Of karma, he's searching it and what, no, no. 3608 02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:14,440 Maybe let me be clear. 3609 02:14:14,440 --> 02:14:15,800 I'm speaking from the perspective that- 3610 02:14:15,800 --> 02:14:17,200 - People are understanding- 3611 02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:18,840 - People's view of what karma is, 3612 02:14:18,840 --> 02:14:22,000 is that a higher being or the universe intervenes 3613 02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:23,320 because you've wronged someone. 3614 02:14:23,320 --> 02:14:24,160 I'm saying that- 3615 02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:26,320 - I agree, that's what people believe. 3616 02:14:26,320 --> 02:14:27,160 - So maybe- 3617 02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:29,240 - Most people believe karma to be. 3618 02:14:29,240 --> 02:14:30,800 - So maybe once you hear the definition, 3619 02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:31,640 you might agree with karma. 3620 02:14:31,640 --> 02:14:32,480 - Okay, maybe. 3621 02:14:32,480 --> 02:14:33,720 - And I've never- 3622 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:36,280 (speaking in foreign language) 3623 02:14:36,280 --> 02:14:38,200 - So general people might be right. 3624 02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:40,360 - Let's see. 3625 02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:41,280 - I'm just asking. 3626 02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:42,360 - No, I don't know. 3627 02:14:42,360 --> 02:14:43,720 - From the truth definition, I don't know. 3628 02:14:43,720 --> 02:14:45,040 - But they might be. 3629 02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:46,120 There's a possibility- 3630 02:14:46,120 --> 02:14:48,880 - Yeah, I see the coagulity in here and for sure. 3631 02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:50,440 - I'll never see it and make it seem like- 3632 02:14:50,440 --> 02:14:52,680 - Karma, in Hinduism and Buddhism, 3633 02:14:52,680 --> 02:14:56,080 the sum of a person's actions in this 3634 02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:58,360 and previous states of existence 3635 02:14:58,360 --> 02:15:02,080 are viewed as deciding their fate in future existences. 3636 02:15:02,080 --> 02:15:03,320 - Yeah, but agree with that first part. 3637 02:15:03,320 --> 02:15:04,800 - The first line, believe the first line. 3638 02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:07,320 - The sum of a person's actions. 3639 02:15:07,320 --> 02:15:09,720 - Thank you, people don't believe karma is that. 3640 02:15:09,720 --> 02:15:11,560 People believe karma to be that 3641 02:15:11,560 --> 02:15:14,520 higher being intervenes because you have wronged being. 3642 02:15:14,520 --> 02:15:16,000 - Yeah, yes, yes. 3643 02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:16,840 - Yes. 3644 02:15:16,840 --> 02:15:18,000 - People don't, I wonder that first line 3645 02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:19,880 is the most important part of my time issue 3646 02:15:19,880 --> 02:15:21,200 because you've done it- 3647 02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:22,280 - Exactly. 3648 02:15:22,280 --> 02:15:25,800 - Or your biggest issue is an external force. 3649 02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:26,640 - Yes. 3650 02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:28,400 - And that's what most people believe karma to be. 3651 02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,160 - Or you believe karma exists 3652 02:15:30,160 --> 02:15:35,040 outside of an external force. 3653 02:15:35,040 --> 02:15:35,880 - Because of- 3654 02:15:35,880 --> 02:15:38,240 - So if I eat a lot and I get fat- 3655 02:15:38,240 --> 02:15:39,240 - Yes. 3656 02:15:39,240 --> 02:15:40,640 - And I get lifestyle diseases. 3657 02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:41,480 - Karma. 3658 02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:43,880 - You're pretty much better at what you say, actions. 3659 02:15:43,880 --> 02:15:44,720 - My right. 3660 02:15:44,720 --> 02:15:45,560 - Oh, sorry. 3661 02:15:45,560 --> 02:15:48,400 (speaking foreign language) 3662 02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:49,800 - Which I always say. 3663 02:15:49,800 --> 02:15:51,560 - Karma in that definition, 3664 02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:53,800 it's consistent multiple bad decisions. 3665 02:15:53,800 --> 02:15:56,120 - You make bad decisions and bad actions and bad- 3666 02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:57,040 - Consistent. 3667 02:15:57,040 --> 02:15:58,960 - They delete the fruits of your labor. 3668 02:15:58,960 --> 02:15:59,800 - Yeah, boo. 3669 02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:00,920 - Anything else on that? 3670 02:16:00,920 --> 02:16:01,760 - No, no. 3671 02:16:01,760 --> 02:16:02,600 It's a new amendment. 3672 02:16:02,600 --> 02:16:04,360 I mean, I had this thing of you, yes, I'm Asian. 3673 02:16:04,360 --> 02:16:05,960 It's sad, man, 'cause people said calls 3674 02:16:05,960 --> 02:16:07,440 when they don't achieve them. 3675 02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:08,440 - There's nothing wrong with that. 3676 02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:09,280 - There's nothing wrong with that. 3677 02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:10,720 - You'd rather they don't say it calls. 3678 02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:11,560 - No, I said them. 3679 02:16:11,560 --> 02:16:12,400 - Okay. 3680 02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:13,240 - But try to stick to them. 3681 02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:14,800 - They try until March, like you said. 3682 02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:15,800 - March is too far. 3683 02:16:15,800 --> 02:16:16,640 - That's a- 3684 02:16:16,640 --> 02:16:17,480 - Okay. 3685 02:16:17,480 --> 02:16:20,000 - That's a 25% interest. 3686 02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:22,560 - What's going on with human beings? 3687 02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:25,080 (speaking foreign language) 3688 02:16:25,080 --> 02:16:26,040 - Okay, let me close with this, 3689 02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:28,360 'cause Vincent's title, I need to go. 3690 02:16:28,360 --> 02:16:30,040 I'm gonna try and be as quick as I can. 3691 02:16:30,040 --> 02:16:30,880 - Yes, sir. 3692 02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:36,160 - You once joked about how when I have an epiphany, 3693 02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:38,960 it's all I talk about, like an entire weekend. 3694 02:16:38,960 --> 02:16:42,320 This has been the case in the last two weeks for me. 3695 02:16:42,320 --> 02:16:45,440 These two concepts when it comes to relationships. 3696 02:16:45,440 --> 02:16:46,280 Number one, 3697 02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:53,480 figure out for yourself and then for your partner. 3698 02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:56,440 Do you put yourself first in decisions? 3699 02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:58,720 Do you put your children first? 3700 02:16:58,720 --> 02:17:00,880 Do you put your partner first? 3701 02:17:00,880 --> 02:17:01,920 'Cause once you figure that out, 3702 02:17:01,920 --> 02:17:04,680 it explains a lot about how you move. 3703 02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:08,760 And once you figure out where your partner ranks, 3704 02:17:08,760 --> 02:17:10,640 it explains a lot about how they move 3705 02:17:10,640 --> 02:17:13,840 and it may solve some of your relationship problems. 3706 02:17:13,840 --> 02:17:17,160 Just that misalignment where I put myself first, 3707 02:17:17,160 --> 02:17:19,480 my partner puts me first and it frustrates me. 3708 02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:21,000 Or my partner puts the kids first 3709 02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:22,560 instead of me and frustrates me. 3710 02:17:22,560 --> 02:17:24,240 I put my kids first and I don't understand 3711 02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:26,200 why my husband keeps getting angry, 3712 02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:29,120 but it might be because he wants me to put him first. 3713 02:17:29,120 --> 02:17:30,920 And it manifests in different ways 3714 02:17:30,920 --> 02:17:33,080 and you might find the biggest issue 3715 02:17:33,080 --> 02:17:35,760 is just who you prioritize. 3716 02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:39,040 And a lot of it has to do with your parents, 3717 02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:43,080 whether you learn from them or the way they lived, 3718 02:17:43,080 --> 02:17:45,240 upset you so much that you want to be different. 3719 02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:48,000 For example, your dad put himself first 3720 02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:50,160 and you were like, I wish my father put me first. 3721 02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:52,400 So you end up putting your kids first 3722 02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:54,000 as a trauma reaction. 3723 02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:56,480 Similarly, a girl is raised by a single mom 3724 02:17:56,480 --> 02:17:57,880 or a girl is raised by a mother 3725 02:17:57,880 --> 02:18:00,480 who used to do everything for the father. 3726 02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:02,520 And she's like, I will definitely not do that. 3727 02:18:02,520 --> 02:18:06,400 I will put me first and her kids end up suffering 3728 02:18:06,400 --> 02:18:09,040 or her relationships don't work out 3729 02:18:09,040 --> 02:18:12,640 because she never figured out that men are trash, 3730 02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:13,880 there are these men. 3731 02:18:13,880 --> 02:18:16,080 The reason you're struggling in relationships 3732 02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:18,920 is because you put yourself first 3733 02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:21,680 and whenever you have issues with a man, 3734 02:18:21,680 --> 02:18:23,520 you struggle to put him first 'cause I'm coming, 3735 02:18:23,520 --> 02:18:25,120 you've never learned it or whatever. 3736 02:18:25,120 --> 02:18:28,640 You can still carry on the way you were, 3737 02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:30,560 but it should hopefully help you 3738 02:18:30,560 --> 02:18:32,720 understand dynamics better. 3739 02:18:32,720 --> 02:18:35,560 And in a relatively healthy relationship, 3740 02:18:35,560 --> 02:18:37,320 that ranking should help you guys 3741 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:39,440 steer your ship so much better 3742 02:18:39,440 --> 02:18:43,320 'cause you'll be like, I know if there's food, 3743 02:18:43,320 --> 02:18:45,680 I know if there's money, I know my woman, 3744 02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:47,840 she'll put the kids first. 3745 02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:51,080 Or I know she'll put me first. 3746 02:18:51,080 --> 02:18:52,880 - I don't agree with that. 3747 02:18:52,880 --> 02:18:54,680 - So it becomes a conversation. 3748 02:18:54,680 --> 02:18:56,040 Which is partly what I'm saying, 3749 02:18:56,040 --> 02:18:59,000 figure it out for yourself, it could be a fight. 3750 02:18:59,000 --> 02:19:03,200 But number one is for you, you. 3751 02:19:03,200 --> 02:19:05,640 Because you may not understand 3752 02:19:05,640 --> 02:19:07,640 why your partner's fighting with you. 3753 02:19:07,640 --> 02:19:11,640 And when you realize, I'm fucking selfish. 3754 02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:14,560 Whenever I have money or whenever I always mean, 3755 02:19:14,560 --> 02:19:17,720 or I always put this lady first, I don't get it. 3756 02:19:17,720 --> 02:19:19,920 I buy her flowers, I'm a simp. 3757 02:19:19,920 --> 02:19:21,960 I buy her flowers, what's going on? 3758 02:19:21,960 --> 02:19:25,200 And then you realize she wasn't raised like that. 3759 02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:27,360 She finds it weird for a man to put her first. 3760 02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:29,720 She's like, don't put the kids first. 3761 02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:31,840 Why the fuck are you worried about me? 3762 02:19:31,840 --> 02:19:34,840 Or you're suffering. 3763 02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:36,680 I'm fine. 3764 02:19:36,680 --> 02:19:39,400 Why do you don't worry about me? 3765 02:19:39,400 --> 02:19:40,840 Fix you, Baba. 3766 02:19:40,840 --> 02:19:45,720 Once you realize that you're like, oh, I get it. 3767 02:19:45,720 --> 02:19:47,200 This is why chicks keep leaving me. 3768 02:19:47,200 --> 02:19:48,800 I put them first. 3769 02:19:48,800 --> 02:19:51,400 But they were raised, let's say, by single moms or whatever. 3770 02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:54,520 They don't know what that feels like, and they fuck out. 3771 02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:58,160 Yeah, but Chinese are the thing, 'cause this guy's shady. 3772 02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:01,080 I don't understand why, whereas the bad boy, 3773 02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:03,440 or the whatever, it's familiar for her. 3774 02:20:03,440 --> 02:20:06,200 'Cause she's like, I wanna serve him. 3775 02:20:06,200 --> 02:20:08,480 I don't mind if he puts himself first. 3776 02:20:08,480 --> 02:20:10,440 It's always him, him, him, his friends. 3777 02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:11,920 I must cook for them. 3778 02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:14,840 He's going out with the boys, and she loves it. 3779 02:20:14,840 --> 02:20:17,160 'Cause all she wants to do is cater to him. 3780 02:20:17,160 --> 02:20:21,280 I'll make a stupid example, but that's very relevant. 3781 02:20:21,280 --> 02:20:26,280 I've dated ladies that we've had fights, fights, 3782 02:20:26,280 --> 02:20:29,600 because I wanna do my own laundry, 3783 02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:33,040 because I wanna cook my own meals, and they take offense. 3784 02:20:33,040 --> 02:20:36,640 Do I not wash your clothes properly? 3785 02:20:36,640 --> 02:20:38,000 Is my cooking bad? 3786 02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:40,600 And I'm like, I don't understand. 3787 02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:42,720 They're like, no, you're just, you're upsetting me. 3788 02:20:42,720 --> 02:20:44,800 It's like you don't appreciate me. 3789 02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:46,880 It's like you don't need me. 3790 02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:50,840 When I track back, I'm like, I realized how I was raised 3791 02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:52,320 directly and directly. 3792 02:20:52,320 --> 02:20:54,640 I need to be able to do things for myself. 3793 02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:56,760 I need to do my laundry and cook my meals. 3794 02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,920 And in my head, (speaking in foreign language) 3795 02:20:59,920 --> 02:21:00,840 No, you can rest. 3796 02:21:00,840 --> 02:21:02,640 You don't have to do my laundry. 3797 02:21:02,640 --> 02:21:04,680 No, you don't have to worry about my food. 3798 02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:07,000 Focus on yourself or the kids. 3799 02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:10,120 I'm sorted, but she interprets that in another way, 3800 02:21:10,120 --> 02:21:12,360 'cause where she comes from, she's like, 3801 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:14,480 my mom would feed my dad. 3802 02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:16,920 If my dad came back full, my mom would be upset, 3803 02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:21,440 be like, you know, I really go out of my way to cook for you. 3804 02:21:21,440 --> 02:21:23,440 Why are you not letting me take care of you? 3805 02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:26,880 It gives me joy to do your laundry. 3806 02:21:26,880 --> 02:21:30,080 I get so excited singing, ironing your clothes. 3807 02:21:30,080 --> 02:21:31,720 When I see you, that keeping a shirt, 3808 02:21:31,720 --> 02:21:33,280 I'm like, that's me, boy. 3809 02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:34,840 I fucking iron that thing. 3810 02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:39,000 And she loves it, you know? 3811 02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:40,440 So that becomes a clash. 3812 02:21:40,440 --> 02:21:42,560 And you're like, why are we fighting here? 3813 02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:43,680 I don't get it. 3814 02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:45,680 Where are we missing each other? 3815 02:21:45,680 --> 02:21:48,440 Where we're missing each other is the ranking. 3816 02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:50,280 Do you put yourself first, your kids first, 3817 02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:53,440 or your partner first? 3818 02:21:53,440 --> 02:21:56,240 And once you understand that dynamic toward pins and saying, 3819 02:21:56,240 --> 02:21:59,000 you can then have the conversation mainly to a fight, 3820 02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:01,840 or it may lead to understanding, like, ah. 3821 02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:03,120 - Cool, my mom, my love, love. 3822 02:22:03,120 --> 02:22:04,440 - Or it may lead to a breakup, 3823 02:22:04,440 --> 02:22:06,440 and you have them to find a person that understands. 3824 02:22:06,440 --> 02:22:07,280 - Ah, my breakup. 3825 02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:09,040 - Is that a bad thing? 3826 02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:09,880 - I don't know. 3827 02:22:09,880 --> 02:22:13,240 I'm saying, it's part of the solve. 3828 02:22:13,240 --> 02:22:17,960 - Yeah, it's part of the, because I think a lot of us 3829 02:22:17,960 --> 02:22:21,600 have had to learn this a hard way around parenting, you know? 3830 02:22:21,600 --> 02:22:24,960 Where a lot of the mothers that I've been exposed 3831 02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:27,120 to put their kids first, you know? 3832 02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:29,840 And it's such a sensitive one, because it's not a, 3833 02:22:29,840 --> 02:22:32,720 oh yeah, our parents input himself first, and that's okay. 3834 02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:36,240 Or that's just, let's have an argument about it. 3835 02:22:36,240 --> 02:22:39,520 It's a matter of, if I put my kids first, 3836 02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:42,520 now I'm Gita, you need to put our kids first. 3837 02:22:42,520 --> 02:22:44,920 And because you might not align, 3838 02:22:44,920 --> 02:22:48,920 and that misalignment alone might lead to divorce, 3839 02:22:48,920 --> 02:22:53,720 you know, that might lead to whatever bigger shanty. 3840 02:22:53,720 --> 02:22:56,520 So it's, but it would be nice to learn it 3841 02:22:56,520 --> 02:23:00,880 before you have a drawn out toxic breakup, 3842 02:23:00,880 --> 02:23:02,960 or a divorce that could have been avoided. 3843 02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:07,720 If you knew the fights are not money or cheating, 3844 02:23:07,720 --> 02:23:12,240 it's just that I wish you could try and put the kids first, 3845 02:23:12,240 --> 02:23:14,400 'cause if you did, maybe I wouldn't really mind 3846 02:23:14,400 --> 02:23:16,800 their cheating, I know it's an extreme example, 3847 02:23:16,800 --> 02:23:18,480 but you'd be surprised. 3848 02:23:18,480 --> 02:23:20,840 - But I'm saying what you're saying to know, 3849 02:23:20,840 --> 02:23:21,680 that's one part. 3850 02:23:21,680 --> 02:23:22,520 - Yeah. 3851 02:23:22,520 --> 02:23:23,880 - I'm saying to accept and to do. 3852 02:23:23,880 --> 02:23:24,720 - Yeah, yeah. 3853 02:23:24,720 --> 02:23:27,560 - Because in relationships, and I'm not singling out 3854 02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:31,120 one gender over the other, it's a matter of, 3855 02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:33,000 you need to align. 3856 02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:36,560 And if we're not aligned because you view yourself first, 3857 02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:40,120 and I view myself second, if that's the dynamic, 3858 02:23:40,120 --> 02:23:41,520 so we're not aligned. 3859 02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:44,240 So no amount of conversation will fix that. 3860 02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:45,080 - Sure. 3861 02:23:45,080 --> 02:23:47,960 - The only thing that will fix that is if I put you first, 3862 02:23:47,960 --> 02:23:50,480 and you put me first, then we're aligned. 3863 02:23:50,480 --> 02:23:53,160 Or I put the kids first, and you put the kids first 3864 02:23:53,160 --> 02:23:54,000 in real life. 3865 02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:55,800 We can talk until we go green in the face, 3866 02:23:55,800 --> 02:23:57,560 we can see every psychologist ever, 3867 02:23:57,560 --> 02:23:59,560 we can go to Infundis, we can speak to your mom, Mike, 3868 02:23:59,560 --> 02:24:02,240 Granny, whoever, but if there's no alignment, 3869 02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:05,960 and that's the sense of a point. 3870 02:24:05,960 --> 02:24:08,080 And just to close off from my side, 3871 02:24:08,080 --> 02:24:11,640 I think that's where we get a lot of backlash 3872 02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:14,440 as well around how we father. 3873 02:24:14,440 --> 02:24:17,480 Because you have a lot of social media where people want 3874 02:24:17,480 --> 02:24:20,600 how they would father if they were in our situation. 3875 02:24:20,600 --> 02:24:24,760 You know, 'cause we don't align with how they would father 3876 02:24:24,760 --> 02:24:26,280 if they had our kids. 3877 02:24:26,280 --> 02:24:30,520 Or how they would father if they had the platform. 3878 02:24:30,520 --> 02:24:34,600 Or how they would father if they had multiple baby moments. 3879 02:24:34,600 --> 02:24:38,200 Or how everyone, and now you are made constantly 3880 02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:40,480 with that energy. 3881 02:24:40,480 --> 02:24:44,080 So to our last lady, guys, please can you give us Chris? 3882 02:24:44,080 --> 02:24:49,080 Because you guys also have your ways of doing things. 3883 02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:55,520 And many people in your circle also might not agree 3884 02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:59,880 with the way that you move as a husband, 3885 02:24:59,880 --> 02:25:02,840 a boyfriend, a girlfriend, a mom, an aunt, 3886 02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:07,840 whatever the case may be, and watching, 3887 02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:10,680 and I'm sorry, I'm going back, watching, 3888 02:25:10,680 --> 02:25:15,080 and listening to Juarez's kids, listening to you watching, 3889 02:25:15,080 --> 02:25:20,080 listening to Nicole, Ph, who sees her, 3890 02:25:20,080 --> 02:25:22,480 you realize again, we are-- 3891 02:25:22,480 --> 02:25:23,320 - Scissors with them. 3892 02:25:23,320 --> 02:25:24,160 - Scissors with them, sorry. 3893 02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:25,080 - Not our scissor. 3894 02:25:25,080 --> 02:25:26,800 - Yeah, scissor with them. 3895 02:25:26,800 --> 02:25:31,800 We different, and we all doing what we think is best. 3896 02:25:31,960 --> 02:25:35,280 So the father that is posting his kids, 3897 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,840 and the father who's not posting his kids, 3898 02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:39,360 their intention is the same. 3899 02:25:39,360 --> 02:25:40,880 - They are both right. 3900 02:25:40,880 --> 02:25:45,040 - The intention and their heart is in a good place. 3901 02:25:45,040 --> 02:25:48,080 They both think that they're doing what's best. 3902 02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:51,360 And both fathers don't have a blueprint, a memo, 3903 02:25:51,360 --> 02:25:54,880 or a fucking magic eight ball where they can see the future. 3904 02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:58,440 So please have grace when it comes to those type of things. 3905 02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:04,520 - I'm sad to have been part of the last episode 3906 02:26:04,520 --> 02:26:06,720 of the panel show on Convo. 3907 02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:11,000 What you guys have done has just been truly humble. 3908 02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:14,600 And it's one of those things that-- 3909 02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:15,440 - Humbly. 3910 02:26:15,440 --> 02:26:21,400 - Look, because we will discuss it in years to come. 3911 02:26:21,400 --> 02:26:25,840 It'll be quite, it'll be you are, 3912 02:26:25,840 --> 02:26:30,160 and I will be into in terms of the doors that you guys have opened. 3913 02:26:30,160 --> 02:26:32,720 So, Sabo, my man. 3914 02:26:32,720 --> 02:26:33,720 - Oh, these are your closing ones. 3915 02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:34,560 - These are my closing ones. 3916 02:26:34,560 --> 02:26:35,600 - Oh, I wasn't done. 3917 02:26:35,600 --> 02:26:36,520 - You're done. 3918 02:26:36,520 --> 02:26:37,360 - Alain. 3919 02:26:37,360 --> 02:26:38,200 - Alain. 3920 02:26:38,200 --> 02:26:40,120 - Oh, this is not too many actually. 3921 02:26:40,120 --> 02:26:42,200 So just play the one now, we're guessing. 3922 02:26:42,200 --> 02:26:43,040 - Oh. 3923 02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:44,200 - Play the show, play the one. 3924 02:26:44,200 --> 02:26:45,480 (speaking in foreign language) 3925 02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:47,280 - But I was talking when you came in. 3926 02:26:47,280 --> 02:26:49,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3927 02:26:49,920 --> 02:26:51,320 (speaking in foreign language) 3928 02:26:51,320 --> 02:26:53,080 - He said, "I hope on below." 3929 02:26:53,080 --> 02:26:54,560 - Meaning that it's going to be low. 3930 02:26:54,560 --> 02:26:58,400 (speaking in foreign language) 3931 02:26:58,400 --> 02:27:02,040 (speaking in foreign language) 3932 02:27:02,040 --> 02:27:04,280 - Between me and you, it may not be the same. 3933 02:27:04,280 --> 02:27:06,280 (screaming) 3934 02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:08,480 (speaking in foreign language) 3935 02:27:08,480 --> 02:27:10,720 (laughing) 3936 02:27:10,720 --> 02:27:14,640 (speaking in foreign language) 3937 02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:21,280 (speaking in foreign language) 3938 02:27:21,280 --> 02:27:23,480 (screaming) 3939 02:27:23,480 --> 02:27:27,320 (speaking in foreign language) 3940 02:27:27,320 --> 02:27:28,600 (laughing) 3941 02:27:28,600 --> 02:27:32,600 (speaking in foreign language) 3942 02:27:32,600 --> 02:27:36,440 (speaking in foreign language) 3943 02:27:36,440 --> 02:27:38,760 (laughing) 3944 02:27:38,760 --> 02:27:42,760 (speaking in foreign language) 3945 02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:45,120 (laughing) 3946 02:27:45,120 --> 02:27:48,960 (speaking in foreign language) 3947 02:27:48,960 --> 02:27:52,800 (speaking in foreign language) 3948 02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:55,200 (speaking in foreign language) 3949 02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:57,800 - It's pulling rank, might give you kaluma. 3950 02:27:57,800 --> 02:28:00,320 (speaking in foreign language) 3951 02:28:00,320 --> 02:28:02,160 (screaming) 3952 02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:04,160 (speaking in foreign language) 3953 02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:06,160 (speaking in foreign language) 3954 02:28:06,160 --> 02:28:08,160 (laughing) 3955 02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:10,160 (speaking in foreign language) 3956 02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:11,000 - You're going too far, mate. 3957 02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:12,160 That's not cool, bro. 3958 02:28:12,160 --> 02:28:13,320 (laughing) 3959 02:28:13,320 --> 02:28:15,640 (speaking in foreign language) 3960 02:28:15,640 --> 02:28:16,640 - I love you, bro. 3961 02:28:16,640 --> 02:28:20,280 (speaking in foreign language) 3962 02:28:20,280 --> 02:28:24,680 (speaking in foreign language) 3963 02:28:24,680 --> 02:28:28,520 (speaking in foreign language) 3964 02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:29,360 - That's dope. 3965 02:28:29,360 --> 02:28:31,680 - That's what you actually need to organize. 3966 02:28:31,680 --> 02:28:34,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3967 02:28:34,080 --> 02:28:38,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3968 02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:40,880 (speaking in foreign language) 3969 02:28:40,880 --> 02:28:42,880 (speaking in foreign language) 3970 02:28:42,880 --> 02:28:43,720 (speaking in foreign language) 3971 02:28:43,720 --> 02:28:45,560 (speaking in foreign language) 3972 02:28:45,560 --> 02:28:46,400 - Okay. 3973 02:28:46,400 --> 02:28:48,000 - My mom would love to meet you for coffee. 3974 02:28:48,000 --> 02:28:49,600 (speaking in foreign language) 3975 02:28:49,600 --> 02:28:52,400 (speaking in foreign language) 3976 02:28:52,400 --> 02:28:55,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3977 02:28:55,920 --> 02:28:59,520 (speaking in foreign language) 3978 02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:03,320 (speaking in foreign language) 3979 02:29:03,320 --> 02:29:04,880 - The lady. 3980 02:29:04,880 --> 02:29:06,760 - The woman, the lady, the singer. 3981 02:29:06,760 --> 02:29:07,600 - Oh, okay. 3982 02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:10,200 (speaking in foreign language) 3983 02:29:10,200 --> 02:29:13,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3984 02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:14,560 (laughing) 3985 02:29:14,560 --> 02:29:16,320 (speaking in foreign language) 3986 02:29:16,320 --> 02:29:18,240 (speaking in foreign language) 3987 02:29:18,240 --> 02:29:21,240 (speaking in foreign language) 3988 02:29:21,240 --> 02:29:23,520 (speaking in foreign language) 3989 02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:26,120 (speaking in foreign language) 3990 02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:27,480 - She did say, yeah. 3991 02:29:27,480 --> 02:29:29,680 - She's been saying, she's been asking. 3992 02:29:29,680 --> 02:29:33,080 (speaking in foreign language) 3993 02:29:33,080 --> 02:29:34,120 - No, it's because I flew. 3994 02:29:34,120 --> 02:29:35,120 (speaking in foreign language) 3995 02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:36,920 (speaking in foreign language) 3996 02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:38,600 (speaking in foreign language) 3997 02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:39,800 - Penzo also knows this. 3998 02:29:39,800 --> 02:29:41,320 It's not like a secret. 3999 02:29:41,320 --> 02:29:43,000 - That's all lady wants to come and cook. 4000 02:29:43,000 --> 02:29:44,160 (speaking in foreign language) 4001 02:29:44,160 --> 02:29:45,520 - No, things happen this week, buffet. 4002 02:29:45,520 --> 02:29:46,360 - Yeah. 4003 02:29:46,360 --> 02:29:47,200 - Let's be fair. - No, it's not this week. 4004 02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:48,440 (speaking in foreign language) 4005 02:29:48,440 --> 02:29:49,280 - The issue is me. 4006 02:29:49,280 --> 02:29:50,120 - Oh. 4007 02:29:50,120 --> 02:29:51,440 - She's been asking to cook. 4008 02:29:51,440 --> 02:29:53,360 (speaking in foreign language) 4009 02:29:53,360 --> 02:29:56,720 (speaking in foreign language) 4010 02:29:56,720 --> 02:29:58,360 (speaking in foreign language) 4011 02:29:58,360 --> 02:29:59,360 (speaking in foreign language) 4012 02:29:59,360 --> 02:30:00,200 - Yeah, yes. 4013 02:30:00,200 --> 02:30:01,120 Yeah, but I flew. 4014 02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:02,400 I'm gonna take my help. 4015 02:30:02,400 --> 02:30:03,840 (speaking in foreign language) 4016 02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:04,680 - No. 4017 02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:07,680 (speaking in foreign language) 4018 02:30:07,680 --> 02:30:11,040 (speaking in foreign language) 4019 02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:14,840 (speaking in foreign language) 4020 02:30:14,840 --> 02:30:18,680 (speaking in foreign language) 4021 02:30:18,680 --> 02:30:22,200 (speaking in foreign language) 4022 02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:24,160 (speaking in foreign language) 4023 02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:25,240 - Let me finish my last point. 4024 02:30:25,240 --> 02:30:27,760 So I mean, this is a do-bin size in Jandeen. 4025 02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:28,800 (speaking in foreign language) 4026 02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:29,640 That's not nice. 4027 02:30:29,640 --> 02:30:36,160 This will be one of my themes for 2025. 4028 02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:43,320 The key to fixing society and families 4029 02:30:43,320 --> 02:30:46,480 is to identify or to find an identity. 4030 02:30:46,480 --> 02:30:49,320 We've spoken about this many times, 4031 02:30:49,320 --> 02:30:51,480 to be one of the things I criticize who paints in your eye 4032 02:30:51,480 --> 02:30:54,080 as well in terms of, (speaking in foreign language) 4033 02:30:54,080 --> 02:30:58,600 I'm like, yeah, well, once you've picked an identity, 4034 02:30:58,600 --> 02:31:01,000 everything else then falls into place. 4035 02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:03,240 So what I'm gonna say now is aligned to something like this. 4036 02:31:03,240 --> 02:31:05,760 So I spoke about partner kids yourself. 4037 02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:07,200 Similarly, there's these three things, 4038 02:31:07,200 --> 02:31:09,440 culture, religion, and what I call modernism. 4039 02:31:10,920 --> 02:31:14,000 First and foremost, everyone needs to understand 4040 02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:16,040 what these three things mean. 4041 02:31:16,040 --> 02:31:18,720 What is African culture? 4042 02:31:18,720 --> 02:31:20,640 It's honor culture, Zulu culture. 4043 02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:21,640 What is it? 4044 02:31:21,640 --> 02:31:23,760 How do you live by it? 4045 02:31:23,760 --> 02:31:26,640 Go do research 'cause a lot of people, 4046 02:31:26,640 --> 02:31:29,760 especially online, don't know what it is. 4047 02:31:29,760 --> 02:31:31,160 Go ask those dumb questions. 4048 02:31:31,160 --> 02:31:32,680 What do we eat? 4049 02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:34,680 How do we raise kids? 4050 02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:36,760 What must we do around sex? 4051 02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:38,520 What about making money? 4052 02:31:38,520 --> 02:31:40,020 What about getting married? 4053 02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:43,280 And be able to answer, if I ask you, 4054 02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:45,720 what does a, it's one of men, 4055 02:31:45,720 --> 02:31:47,400 you must be able to, whether you live it or not, 4056 02:31:47,400 --> 02:31:48,720 answer that. 4057 02:31:48,720 --> 02:31:51,160 Do the same religiously, go do that research. 4058 02:31:51,160 --> 02:31:53,480 And I'm asking everyone to do the three. 4059 02:31:53,480 --> 02:31:55,800 What does it mean religiously when your child is born, 4060 02:31:55,800 --> 02:31:58,600 they must get baptized, they must go to Sunday school, 4061 02:31:58,600 --> 02:32:01,080 they must be born again, maybe, they must read the Bible. 4062 02:32:01,080 --> 02:32:02,920 This is what the Bible prescribes. 4063 02:32:02,920 --> 02:32:04,880 Men and women, the woman must know, 4064 02:32:04,880 --> 02:32:06,680 this is what the Bible says. 4065 02:32:06,680 --> 02:32:08,240 If you're Muslim, if you're Jewish, 4066 02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:09,600 you follow that prescription. 4067 02:32:09,600 --> 02:32:12,400 This is how the man leads the home, it's making money. 4068 02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:14,920 Can a woman talk back, like, 4069 02:32:14,920 --> 02:32:16,400 understand it so that you can answer it 4070 02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:18,240 from a religious perspective. 4071 02:32:18,240 --> 02:32:20,280 And then this one is, of course, very difficult. 4072 02:32:20,280 --> 02:32:22,480 What does modernism say? 4073 02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:24,000 I'll leave people just with this one 4074 02:32:24,000 --> 02:32:25,280 'cause this is the guiding principle. 4075 02:32:25,280 --> 02:32:30,280 Modernism is feminism and equality as a starting point. 4076 02:32:30,280 --> 02:32:31,360 What does that mean? 4077 02:32:31,360 --> 02:32:36,360 It means man and woman just have different private parts, 4078 02:32:36,360 --> 02:32:39,280 different hormones, but everything else 4079 02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:40,640 is just based on what's put in. 4080 02:32:40,640 --> 02:32:44,240 You go to school, you go and get a qualification, 4081 02:32:44,240 --> 02:32:47,120 you go and get a job, you buy a house, 4082 02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:48,520 you maybe get married, you have kids 4083 02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,880 and you guys co-parent and you share chores. 4084 02:32:50,880 --> 02:32:53,520 That's modernism and modernism acts out 4085 02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:55,760 in a court of law, mostly. 4086 02:32:55,760 --> 02:32:58,360 You can bring your culture, you can bring your religion. 4087 02:32:58,360 --> 02:33:02,720 Modernism says for sake, this woman also has rights. 4088 02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:05,040 Ubaba, Mama also has, and then you're like, 4089 02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:07,160 but the Bible says, like, nope. 4090 02:33:07,160 --> 02:33:09,720 We're not governed by that, too. 4091 02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:13,080 No, Jesus says with school, well, the law says, 4092 02:33:13,080 --> 02:33:17,560 maybe I'll say feminism and equality slash the law 4093 02:33:17,560 --> 02:33:19,320 as modernism. 4094 02:33:19,320 --> 02:33:20,160 And... 4095 02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:22,760 I'll just take out feminism and just have equality. 4096 02:33:22,760 --> 02:33:23,920 As a term. 4097 02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:25,360 I'll just have equality. 4098 02:33:25,360 --> 02:33:26,880 Sure, no problem. 4099 02:33:26,880 --> 02:33:28,600 Equality of gender. 4100 02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:31,800 Equality of gender, and maybe even of age, ages. 4101 02:33:31,800 --> 02:33:33,360 The same thing is that you say law, 4102 02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:36,760 but there's also a fourth one, society, 4103 02:33:36,760 --> 02:33:40,040 because as much of you speak as of being equal 4104 02:33:40,040 --> 02:33:42,440 or as much as you speak about feminism, 4105 02:33:42,440 --> 02:33:45,200 there's also a start point and an input 4106 02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:46,840 within current society. 4107 02:33:46,840 --> 02:33:50,600 So, I love the fact that you said being equal, 4108 02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:53,520 but that may not speak to societal standards. 4109 02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:54,520 Sure, sure. 4110 02:33:54,520 --> 02:33:55,360 In the sense of... 4111 02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:57,320 Or law standards, because that's what this thing is. 4112 02:33:57,320 --> 02:33:58,320 So, what are the law... 4113 02:33:58,320 --> 02:34:01,120 So, you might speak about us being equal, 4114 02:34:01,120 --> 02:34:03,320 but society will say that the man needs to pay 4115 02:34:03,320 --> 02:34:07,400 for the first date, all of a sudden, being a feminist 4116 02:34:07,400 --> 02:34:09,240 or being equal disappears. 4117 02:34:09,240 --> 02:34:12,080 And I tell you, equal, but if she slaps you, 4118 02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:14,240 you need to walk away. 4119 02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:16,760 So then, all of a sudden, everything then changes 4120 02:34:16,760 --> 02:34:21,440 in terms of culture, religion being equal 4121 02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:23,240 and societal standards. 4122 02:34:23,240 --> 02:34:27,040 So, society is the problem that I'm trying to solve, 4123 02:34:27,040 --> 02:34:28,520 which is why I'm not adding it. 4124 02:34:28,520 --> 02:34:30,520 The problem is society. 4125 02:34:30,520 --> 02:34:32,600 So, I need people to understand these three things 4126 02:34:32,600 --> 02:34:34,200 and articulate them as best I can. 4127 02:34:34,200 --> 02:34:36,240 I just had one more thing, so I don't know if it's a challenge 4128 02:34:36,240 --> 02:34:37,080 or not. 4129 02:34:37,080 --> 02:34:39,800 With your modernism, don't want to have... 4130 02:34:39,800 --> 02:34:41,360 'Cause you said feminism and equality. 4131 02:34:41,360 --> 02:34:45,200 Don't you want to say the law? 4132 02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:46,880 Don't you think what feminism is... 4133 02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:48,200 No, don't you think... 4134 02:34:48,200 --> 02:34:51,000 Take out feminism and equality. 4135 02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:55,120 Just modernism is what does the law say? 4136 02:34:55,120 --> 02:34:56,720 Not necessarily, but honestly... 4137 02:34:56,720 --> 02:34:58,600 Because modernism might also have... 4138 02:34:58,600 --> 02:35:00,600 'Cause there's the law and in the social standards. 4139 02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:01,640 You know, I'm saying that. 4140 02:35:01,640 --> 02:35:03,400 At the end of it, there's a final... 4141 02:35:03,400 --> 02:35:04,600 But just as... 4142 02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:06,400 Irritaging, but I'll give you an example. 4143 02:35:06,400 --> 02:35:07,360 I'll give you an example. 4144 02:35:07,360 --> 02:35:10,640 According to the law, if a female assaults me, 4145 02:35:10,640 --> 02:35:13,040 I'm trying to embank my mind, and I slapped him back. 4146 02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:15,480 The law views it in one way. 4147 02:35:15,480 --> 02:35:16,880 Yeah, so I don't say where it is. 4148 02:35:16,880 --> 02:35:19,480 So, the umbrella of modernism. 4149 02:35:19,480 --> 02:35:21,200 Let's just look at the law. 4150 02:35:21,200 --> 02:35:23,840 Female slaps me, I slap female back. 4151 02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:25,920 The law sees it in one way. 4152 02:35:25,920 --> 02:35:29,280 Society under modernism... 4153 02:35:29,280 --> 02:35:30,360 Modernism. 4154 02:35:30,360 --> 02:35:32,400 Female slaps me, I slap her back. 4155 02:35:32,400 --> 02:35:34,880 There's different rules for that. 4156 02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:36,440 Okay, I was just thinking that you go back 4157 02:35:36,440 --> 02:35:37,640 to some sort of a base. 4158 02:35:37,640 --> 02:35:38,600 It makes a lot of sense. 4159 02:35:38,600 --> 02:35:39,600 I'm saying why I'm not trapped. 4160 02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:41,840 So the base is what I'm fighting. 4161 02:35:41,840 --> 02:35:45,320 I did say slash law, but it's slash because 4162 02:35:45,320 --> 02:35:47,920 the law does incorporate a lot of culture and religion. 4163 02:35:47,920 --> 02:35:48,760 Okay, okay. 4164 02:35:48,760 --> 02:35:50,240 So that's why it becomes murky, 4165 02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:51,640 and I don't want to just say... 4166 02:35:51,640 --> 02:35:52,800 Law. 4167 02:35:52,800 --> 02:35:54,800 Culture, religion, law. 4168 02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:56,320 Okay, yeah, sure. 4169 02:35:56,320 --> 02:35:57,640 Modernism is difficult. 4170 02:35:57,640 --> 02:35:59,200 It's because part of it straddles... 4171 02:35:59,200 --> 02:36:02,280 I was saying modernism and the definition is law, 4172 02:36:02,280 --> 02:36:03,920 not equality and feminism. 4173 02:36:03,920 --> 02:36:04,720 I hear what you're saying. 4174 02:36:04,720 --> 02:36:05,560 Okay, cool. 4175 02:36:05,560 --> 02:36:08,400 I'm just saying the part of why modernism is difficult 4176 02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,320 is because it incorporates society, 4177 02:36:10,320 --> 02:36:13,040 and we haven't fully figured out what that is. 4178 02:36:13,040 --> 02:36:13,880 Don't agree. 4179 02:36:13,880 --> 02:36:15,280 It's not necessarily the law. 4180 02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:18,160 It's more how people are living now. 4181 02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:21,880 But I'm just suggesting that the starting point be equality, 4182 02:36:21,880 --> 02:36:24,080 but I'm saying also reference the law 4183 02:36:24,080 --> 02:36:26,760 because it does help clarify a lot of things. 4184 02:36:26,760 --> 02:36:28,080 Sure. 4185 02:36:28,080 --> 02:36:30,680 Once you've figured, oh, you've found some idea 4186 02:36:30,680 --> 02:36:35,680 of these three things, choose one, choose one, 4187 02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:41,320 and try and live by it. 4188 02:36:41,320 --> 02:36:45,080 You can deviate, but then you revert back to one. 4189 02:36:45,080 --> 02:36:46,480 You'll not stop. 4190 02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:50,880 If you're not going to choose one, articulate it 4191 02:36:50,880 --> 02:36:52,800 so that you're not confusing us. 4192 02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:55,240 I had a conversation with a lady and I was telling her, 4193 02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:58,280 one of the reasons I get so pissed online 4194 02:36:58,280 --> 02:37:01,320 is because specifically Black South Africans, 4195 02:37:01,320 --> 02:37:04,600 they claim to be something, but they pick and choose. 4196 02:37:04,600 --> 02:37:06,560 And then when you call them out, 4197 02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:08,320 they come with all this wishy-washy cock 4198 02:37:08,320 --> 02:37:10,560 and they don't have a note star. 4199 02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:12,320 So it's what's convenient. 4200 02:37:12,320 --> 02:37:14,920 They live a convenient life, which is now society, 4201 02:37:14,920 --> 02:37:18,200 which is why I don't want society to be fourth, 4202 02:37:18,200 --> 02:37:21,000 'cause society's convenient, but it causes fights, 4203 02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:22,680 'cause what's convenient for a woman 4204 02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:24,280 might not be convenient for me. 4205 02:37:24,280 --> 02:37:26,760 And when I call her out, she might be like, 4206 02:37:26,760 --> 02:37:28,880 but society says. 4207 02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:32,000 And you're like, you see, now, how are we going to build on 4208 02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:33,840 when you feel like you're a Christian, 4209 02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:36,160 and I must respect your Christian thing, 4210 02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,160 when you feel like you're a cultural woman-- 4211 02:37:38,160 --> 02:37:39,000 - So fully loved one. 4212 02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:41,560 - But we were fucking each other the whole weekend. 4213 02:37:41,560 --> 02:37:43,800 And you're like, yeah, but I mean, everyone does it. 4214 02:37:43,800 --> 02:37:45,280 I'm like, but when I come and I'm like, no, 4215 02:37:45,280 --> 02:37:46,280 but I don't want to do this. 4216 02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:48,440 You're like, but my family's cultural. 4217 02:37:48,440 --> 02:37:49,280 You see-- - I want to be more 4218 02:37:49,280 --> 02:37:52,720 than now, because it's kind of convenient for you now. 4219 02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:54,520 - It's inconvenient for me. 4220 02:37:54,520 --> 02:37:56,960 What's convenient for me is to socially say, 4221 02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:59,160 well, a lot of my niggas don't do that stuff. 4222 02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:00,480 You have my family's cultural. 4223 02:38:00,480 --> 02:38:04,280 Oh, all of a sudden, all of a sudden, 4224 02:38:04,280 --> 02:38:05,840 your family's cultural. 4225 02:38:05,840 --> 02:38:08,680 All of a sudden, no, I need to abort this child, 4226 02:38:08,680 --> 02:38:10,760 'cause you know we're in the church. 4227 02:38:10,760 --> 02:38:13,880 And I'm like, so I don't, now we fight. 4228 02:38:13,880 --> 02:38:17,440 Again, like the other one with the partner self, what to add, 4229 02:38:17,440 --> 02:38:19,080 I'm trying to find solutions. 4230 02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:22,180 People need to, 'cause they don't know. 4231 02:38:22,180 --> 02:38:25,020 They need to know the prescriptions of these three things. 4232 02:38:25,020 --> 02:38:27,740 And then they need to either choose one, 4233 02:38:27,740 --> 02:38:28,960 and if they're not gonna choose one 4234 02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:31,560 and they wanna choose a couple or two-- 4235 02:38:31,560 --> 02:38:32,840 - Explain. - Explain. 4236 02:38:32,840 --> 02:38:34,400 Let a nigga know as a woman. 4237 02:38:34,400 --> 02:38:35,240 - Yeah, prep. 4238 02:38:35,240 --> 02:38:38,420 - I'm Christian here. 4239 02:38:38,420 --> 02:38:41,660 I'm modern here. 4240 02:38:41,660 --> 02:38:45,760 How do you know, because Open will ask me 4241 02:38:45,760 --> 02:38:47,760 to do the homework and I did it. 4242 02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:49,920 And the Bible says a woman must, 4243 02:38:49,920 --> 02:38:53,720 and that's what I'm like, no, I'm only Christian 4244 02:38:53,720 --> 02:38:55,880 when it comes to prayer, and not what, 4245 02:38:55,880 --> 02:38:58,480 and I expect you to do this in the Christian, 4246 02:38:58,480 --> 02:39:02,160 but when it comes to this, I'm equality. 4247 02:39:02,160 --> 02:39:04,320 I'm whatever the law says. 4248 02:39:04,320 --> 02:39:07,480 Because people want to be Christian when it suits them. 4249 02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:10,120 Now when you start fighting over children, 4250 02:39:10,120 --> 02:39:12,440 now all of a sudden they run to the law. 4251 02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:13,280 And you're like, no, but-- 4252 02:39:13,280 --> 02:39:14,120 - Then you go cultural out. 4253 02:39:14,120 --> 02:39:16,640 - And you're like, no, but culturally the family's, 4254 02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:17,640 and it becomes a fuck up. 4255 02:39:17,640 --> 02:39:21,600 And in that thing I was saying of identity finding yourself, 4256 02:39:21,600 --> 02:39:24,380 I really think, because we've spoken about it, 4257 02:39:24,380 --> 02:39:26,320 I'm just adding on to it to say, 4258 02:39:26,320 --> 02:39:28,040 part of which is going to do the research. 4259 02:39:28,040 --> 02:39:29,880 It doesn't have to be that extensive. 4260 02:39:29,880 --> 02:39:31,800 But so that when we're having fights, 4261 02:39:31,800 --> 02:39:37,040 when I'm like, but we can put it in these boxes 4262 02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:40,520 and we can be like, okay, this is where it's, 4263 02:39:40,520 --> 02:39:43,120 you're being Christian and you do realize 4264 02:39:43,120 --> 02:39:45,480 that this is a Christian thing and you must acknowledge it. 4265 02:39:45,480 --> 02:39:47,080 And if you don't, then that means you're lying 4266 02:39:47,080 --> 02:39:48,640 and we've got a bigger problem. 4267 02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:50,760 Acknowledge where we are and what this is. 4268 02:39:50,760 --> 02:39:54,520 And let's agree on, do you want to do the cultural thing? 4269 02:39:54,520 --> 02:39:56,320 And if the answer is yes, no. 4270 02:39:56,320 --> 02:39:58,960 If you want to do the Christian thing, are we doing? 4271 02:39:58,960 --> 02:40:00,280 If you want to do a modern thing, 4272 02:40:00,280 --> 02:40:03,720 let's, a lot of people are being bullied by modernism, 4273 02:40:03,720 --> 02:40:06,080 but my issue is a lot of it is not even modernism, 4274 02:40:06,080 --> 02:40:10,240 modern society, and society's fucked about convenience. 4275 02:40:10,240 --> 02:40:12,440 Society's fucked and it's not getting us somewhere. 4276 02:40:12,440 --> 02:40:15,160 Rather, if you're going to go to the societal route, 4277 02:40:16,040 --> 02:40:17,680 be honest. 4278 02:40:17,680 --> 02:40:21,120 And then when people call you out, which I do online, 4279 02:40:21,120 --> 02:40:23,040 when the woman come and they are, 4280 02:40:23,040 --> 02:40:25,680 you men just impregnate us. 4281 02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:27,640 I'm like, so you know, I've been reading some of your tweets 4282 02:40:27,640 --> 02:40:30,160 and you believe in feminism and equality 4283 02:40:30,160 --> 02:40:31,920 and women must earn the same. 4284 02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:36,280 And, but now it seems here you want to be the decision maker 4285 02:40:36,280 --> 02:40:37,480 and the voice. 4286 02:40:37,480 --> 02:40:39,560 You want to dictate the prescription, 4287 02:40:39,560 --> 02:40:42,000 but you guys consented to having sex 4288 02:40:42,000 --> 02:40:44,280 and you were fine with falling pregnant. 4289 02:40:44,280 --> 02:40:46,600 Now, all of a sudden, when he's convenient to a, 4290 02:40:46,600 --> 02:40:49,760 a little damsel, and he must be a man. 4291 02:40:49,760 --> 02:40:51,240 What kind of a man are you? 4292 02:40:51,240 --> 02:40:53,440 Where is that coming from? 4293 02:40:53,440 --> 02:40:55,920 Siswam, do you read this in the Bible? 4294 02:40:55,920 --> 02:40:57,920 Do you, is this a cultural thing? 4295 02:40:57,920 --> 02:40:59,560 Okay, it's, it's in the Bible. 4296 02:40:59,560 --> 02:41:01,480 It's a cultural thing, no problem. 4297 02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:03,120 How did you have sex with him? 4298 02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:05,000 Because the Bible doesn't agree with that. 4299 02:41:05,000 --> 02:41:06,240 Neither does culture. 4300 02:41:06,240 --> 02:41:07,320 Modernism does. 4301 02:41:07,320 --> 02:41:08,160 - It would fix it, no. 4302 02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:09,360 - Modernism is fine with that, 4303 02:41:09,360 --> 02:41:11,280 but if you're going to follow modernism, 4304 02:41:11,280 --> 02:41:13,280 then you guys are 50/50. 4305 02:41:13,280 --> 02:41:16,280 You guys are both responsible, then it can't be. 4306 02:41:16,280 --> 02:41:18,040 - Oh, it must take you off the kid. 4307 02:41:18,040 --> 02:41:20,200 - Oh, and that yes, you're right. 4308 02:41:20,200 --> 02:41:22,520 It's convenient for me now to lean on the Bible. 4309 02:41:22,520 --> 02:41:24,560 The problem when I look at this is when you bring 4310 02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:26,920 logic and reasoning to Mundus Fazan. 4311 02:41:26,920 --> 02:41:33,560 - Ah, I say that. 4312 02:41:33,560 --> 02:41:36,600 - Yeah, I think it's time to, I'm done. 4313 02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:38,720 Happy New Year, since this is going to be dropping 4314 02:41:38,720 --> 02:41:39,840 in general, happy New Year. 4315 02:41:39,840 --> 02:41:40,680 - Yeah. 4316 02:41:40,680 --> 02:41:42,000 - Let's, let's try and make it. 4317 02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:44,280 This is how long we've been heading for? 4318 02:41:44,280 --> 02:41:45,920 - Two hours, 40 minutes. 4319 02:41:45,920 --> 02:41:47,080 - Yeah, man. 4320 02:41:47,080 --> 02:41:47,920 Thank you so much. 4321 02:41:47,920 --> 02:41:50,280 I know that you had, you said you're going to give us 4322 02:41:50,280 --> 02:41:52,000 30 minutes of your time. 4323 02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:55,080 Especially because you two already hit like, 4324 02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:59,360 your guys show for, I don't know, of two. 4325 02:41:59,360 --> 02:42:01,560 Then you went from there and you gave another three hours here. 4326 02:42:01,560 --> 02:42:04,480 - Two hours, 17 minutes, and we recorded no tapes. 4327 02:42:04,480 --> 02:42:05,760 - Two hours, 17. 4328 02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:07,920 So you guys went from two hours, 4329 02:42:07,920 --> 02:42:11,760 so you've been struggling to get your voice back. 4330 02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:16,560 And then obviously, the day you spoke, 4331 02:42:16,560 --> 02:42:21,560 the one of the challenges around one of the, 4332 02:42:21,560 --> 02:42:22,920 (speaks in foreign language) 4333 02:42:22,920 --> 02:42:25,360 And then you did the two hours, 17. 4334 02:42:25,360 --> 02:42:27,080 And now you're doing close to three hours, 4335 02:42:27,080 --> 02:42:28,400 so we appreciate that. 4336 02:42:28,400 --> 02:42:30,320 - (speaks in foreign language) 4337 02:42:30,320 --> 02:42:31,160 - Wascha. 4338 02:42:31,160 --> 02:42:33,960 - I'm a chance, out.